On 7/21/2011 2:50 AM, Mykyta Yevstifeyev wrote:
21.07.2011 8:20, Simon Wilkinson wrote
On 21 Jul 2011, at 06:00, Mykyta Yevstifeyev<[email protected]> wrote:

Reading this draft, I don't actually understand why you chose to publish it as 
RFC.
We're using the Independent Submissions stream for afs3 documents. See RFC4846 
for details of this stream, and it's purpose.
I've read RFC 4846 and have noticed you're using Independent Submissions 
stream. Probably, the draft should be clearer regarding relationships with 
currently deployed Internet protocols/technologies,
since your document "at the first glance" seems to be a bit irrelevant for the 
RFC series. The counter conclusion may only be made by people who are involved in the AFS 
development and other
contiguous technologies (whom I don't belong to), which makes the document not 
as readable as desired. A good background placed in the Introduction is a good 
way to resolve the issue.

Mykyta

The attempt to implement standards for the AFS protocols has been a mult-year 
endeavor,
with discussions with the IETF and IESG and independent submission has been the 
recommendation.
But as people come and go the same discussions are repeated, so progress has 
been slow.

Following is a note sent to the editor on March 18, that may give you some 
better insight
as to what we are trying to do. You can also find responses from the editor in 
the
[email protected] archives. May 2011.

We now have one document up for review by the RFC editor as an independent 
submission.
We expect that there will be some boiler plate text added to this document by 
the editor,
and we will add it to the others.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [AFS3-std] AFS3 Standardization  and Independent Submissions
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:38:12 -0500
From: Douglas E. Engert <[email protected]>
To: [email protected], [email protected]
CC: Hartmut Reuter <[email protected]>

As you may have seen, there has been a group formed of developers, to 
standardize
the AFS protocols. As one of the co-chairs, I am writing to you to get your
options on our process and how these drafts can be moved forward as Independent
Submissions.

A history of AFS can be found at: http://openafs.org

A number of independent interoperable implementations of AFS have been developed
over the years and for a number of reasons, using the IETF Independent 
Submissions
track has been deemed to be the way to go.

The foundations of the process and the group can be found in:
 http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-wilkinson-afs3-standardisation-01.txt

Many of the members of the group are current or former IETF WG chairs and
are familiar with the general IETF submission process, but not with the
Independent Submissions. So I am contacting you, the IS editor, to get
you option on the process and if we are doing what would be expected.

All of the drafts have -afs3- in the name.

This first draft has been submitted as Informational and has passed a last
call on the mailing list:

 http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-brashear-afs3-pts-extended-names-09.txt

These have been submitted but and are being considered by the group:

 http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-deason-afs3-getsizev2-02.txt
 http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-deason-afs3-type-time-00.txt
 http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-keiser-afs3-xdr-union-00.txt
 http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-tkeiser-afs3-volser-tlv-04.txt
 http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-wilkinson-afs3-bos-identities-00.txt

Our group is based on:
http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-wilkinson-afs3-standardisation-01.txt

So we would like to know if these look acceptable as Independent
Submissions and what we should be doing with the first one of these,
draft-brashear-afs3-pts-extended-names-09.

Thanks.



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