In the space of real world "problems", I suspect the distribution of difficulty follows the Zipf function, like pretty much everything else does.
The curious thing about the Zipf function is the structure of its extreme tail - it is finite, it drops off fast, and it doesn't encompass much of the total area. It would be REALLY nice to know where WE are in the Zipf function of real world problem solving ability. It is my own suspicion that we have the capability of doing nearly all of the real world problem solving, but our culture holds us back. Any AGI would be stuck with the choice of remaining mired in the same mess - or destroying it. Either way wouldn't be seen as a "win". Steve On 5:03PM, Thu, Jun 14, 2018 Mark Nuzz via AGI <[email protected]> wrote: > The Singularity analogy was never intended to imply infinite power. Rather > it represents a point at which understanding and predictability breaks down > and becomes impossible. > > On Jun 14, 2018 3:59 PM, "Matt Mahoney via AGI" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Vinge: when humans produce superhuman AI then so can it, only faster. A >> singularity in mathematics is a point where a function (like intelligence >> over time) goes to infinity. That can't happen in a universe with finite >> computing power and finite memory. Or by singularity do you mean when AI >> makes humans irrelevant or extinct? >> >> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 5:56 PM Steve Richfield via AGI < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Matt, >>> >>> My own view is that a human-based singularity is MUCH closer. The >>> problem is NOT a shortage of GFLOPS or suitable software, but rather, a >>> repairable problem in our wetware. Sure, a silicon solution might >>> eventually be faster, but why simply wait until then? >>> >>> Apparently, I failed to successfully make this point to the people who >>> were paying Singularity's bills. >>> >>> *Steve* >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Matt Mahoney via AGI < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> The singularity list (and SL4) died years ago. The singularity has been >>>> 30 years away for decades now. I guess we got tired of talking about it. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Full employment can be had with the stoke of a pen. Simply institute a >>> six hour workday. That will easily create enough new jobs to bring back >>> full employment. >>> >>> *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery > options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups> Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T5ada390c367596a4-Maa1bb7c2fcc54913fbd85164> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T5ada390c367596a4-M00e4f9762213fd0109bb4794 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups
