I have coded in 30+ languages from ASM to C++. I have coded in Perl for 20+ years. I have hacked thousands of websites, hundreds of computer games and reverse engineered even more. I have won several programming and hacking challenges. I have worked as a system engineer, software engineer, ethical hacker, malware analyst, etc., etc., etc., .... that's "what i got" and I tell you that his code does nothing at all. It does not tackle anything ... not even TIC TAC TOE.

Bringing up a theoretical concept like AIXI shows how little you understand.

He made no attempt. He creates nonsensical horse shit. In his crazy mind it might be an attempt but it isn't. As stated before ... if you argue that 15000 lines of horse shit are just "too complex" for us to understand then you are just as crazy as him ... and I believe you to be his alter ego anyway because you always post after him and defend him. This has been going on for ages ...

I don't work on AGI ... I communicate the need for cooperative monetary systems, degrowth, a #basicincome, obsoleting the work-for-income paradigm and 4 billion #bullshitjobs so we have enough time to actually come up with AGI before our society and biosphere collapse. I deem this to be as important as AGI ... and if AGI turns out to take another 100 years to crack I still want to have an inhabitable planet. That's what I do and your penis might be waaaaaaay longer than mine ... you still don't understand Perl code nor AGI for shit.

On 21/04/2019 00:20, MP via AGI wrote:
Well hold on now, I never claimed to think his code is AGI. What I admire about it is that it's one of the few attempts at solving it - a real, honest, genuine attempt at the grand challenge. It's not some elusive corporate thing we'd never see the source code or even programs from; It's at least *something*

What about things like the Godel Machine and AIXI? Are you going to shit on them too because the math is too hard for you to understand?

What about kurzweil's pattern recognition theory of mind?

Dianetics?

How about SOAR or ACT-R? What's wrong, lisp got your tongue?

And you have the Nigel AGI, Novamente, and a host of other claims that are nothing more than baseless hype with no substance behind them. Yet you won't make any fuss about that because they've given you concepts easy enough for a small minded individual like yourself to digest and make you feel smart about the illusion of knowing how the mind works.

My point is that he's made an attempt. Maybe not a good one, maybe not even a functional one, but he's at least one of the few people to actively work on it.

Again, what do you have to show?


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On Apr 20, 2019, 5:12 PM, justcamel < [email protected]> wrote:


    Don't get me wrong ... I love you as a human being ... I see you
    as my human brother and love you with all of my heart ... but you
    are fucking stupid for even arguing. I could shit on my keyboard
    and have the keystrokes converted into random compiling Perl code
    and you would argue that it's potential AGI ... that's how
    horrible you seem to be at understanding Perl and AGI.

    On 21/04/2019 00:08, MP via AGI wrote:
    Have you even tried to read his code for yourself and tried to
    understand it?


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    On Apr 20, 2019, 5:06 PM, justcamel < [email protected]> wrote:


        Do you even realize how stupid it is to defend a spammer with
        a code that consists of 15.000 nonsensical lines ... who now
        writes 3 pages about this nonsensical concept of "Latin AI"
        ... like intelligence has anything to do with Russian,
        English or Latin ... like you tackle AGI by switching from
        Russian to Latin ... and by hardcoding 100 random words via
        global arrays ... and again ... his code does N O T H I N G.

        If you don't understand this then maybe read some mailing
        list you actually understand and don't defend spam that has
        been going on for decades ...

        On 20/04/2019 23:51, MP via AGI wrote:
        Hey, at least he's doing something with his life. Where's
        any work of yours you spent decades on? Even if he's
        completely wrong - which I'm sure he is - at least he has
        something he can claim as his life's work.

        I don't appreciate anyone here belittling him, honestly.
        Yes, I know, it's mostly ramblings, but again, he's at least
        trying to tackle the grand challenge. What do any of his
        attackers have instead? Absolutely nothing.

        This toxic behavior against him is disgusting.


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        On Apr 20, 2019, 4:47 PM, justcamel < [email protected]>
        wrote:


            Amazing that one brain can be so full of nonsense and
            still allow the human to operate in this world ...

            On 20/04/2019 23:24, A.T. Murray wrote:
            Three days ago on impulse we began coding a Latin AI
            Mind in JavaScript for MSIE. We used JavaScript for the
            sake of what culture snobs call "accessability". In art
            or in culture, if a work is "accessable", it means that
            even hoi polloi can appreciate it. We classicists of
            ancient Greek and Latin are extremely snobby, exceeded
            in this regard perhaps only by the Egyptologists and by
            those who know Sanskrit. In fact, our local university
            newspaper had an article a few weeks ago claiming that
            there are five million modern speakers of Sanskrit and
            only nine individual speakers worldwide who speak Latin
            as a second language. Immediately I took offense
            because they obviously did not include memetipsum among
            the precious nine speakers of Latin. On the Internet I
            tried to hunt down the source of this allegation, this
            lese-majestation, this Chushingura-worthy objurgation
            that only nine Earthlings speak Latin. The insult and
            the non-inclusion festered in my Latin-speaking mind so
            much that I decided three days ago to show them that
            not only are there more than nine Latin-speakers, but
            that even imbecile Windoze machines can speak and think
            in Latin. And once I launched the Latin AI project, I
            discovered that the fun and excitement of it all grew
            on me and sucked me in stronger and stronger -- citius,
            altius, fortius. Sure, it's just a hobby, but it's
            better than fiddling while Notre Dame burns.

            For my first release of the Mens Latina three nights
            ago, I simply did a mutatis mutandis of changing the
            interface of my previous AI from English into Latin,
            and I changed the links at the top from English links
            into Latin links. Then I ran it up the Internet
            flagpole to see if anybody would salute it, but nobody did.

            For my second release I actually inserted some Latin
            concepts into the MindBoot sequence, but I had a
            terrible time trying to figure out a new name for the
            English word "MindBoot". At first I was going to call
            it the OmniScium as if it knew everything, but then I
            settled on PraeScium as the sequence of innate prior
            knowledge that gets the AI up and running. I did some
            more mutatis of the mutandis by changing the names of
            the main thinking modules from English into Latin. But
            when I ran the AI, it reduplicated the final word of
            its only innate idea and it said "EGO SUM PERSONA
            PERSONA". Today for a third release we need to
            troubleshoot the problem.

            For the third release we have added one more innate
            idea, "TU ES HOMO" for "You are a human being." We put
            some temporary activation on the pronoun "TU" so that
            the Latin AI would find the activated idea and speak
            it. Unfortunately, the AI says "TU ES HOMO HOMO".
            Something is still causing reduplication.

            Into the "PraeScium" MindBoot section we added the
            words "QUID" for "what" and "EST" for "is", so that the
            SpreadAct module could ask a question about any new,
            unknown word. We mutandied the necessary mutatis in
            SpreadAct and we began to see some actual thinking in
            Latin, some conversation between Robo Sapiens and Homo
            Sapiens. We entered the word "terra" and the AI said,
            "QUID EST TERRA". We answered "TERRA EST RES" and the
            AI asked us, "QUID EST RES". It is now possible to ask
            the AI "quid sum ego" but, to quote Vergil, responsa
            non dabantur fida satis.

            Mentis versio Abra003A in die Sat Apr 20 08:26:34 PDT 2019
            Robo Sapiens: TU ES HOMO HOMO
            Homo Sapiens: terra

            Robo Sapiens: QUID EST TERRA
            Homo Sapiens: terra est res

            Robo Sapiens: QUID EST RES
            Homo Sapiens:

            Robo Sapiens:
            Homo Sapiens: quid sum ego

            Robo Sapiens: TU ES HOMO HOMO ES HOMO HOMO
            Homo Sapiens:

-- http://ai.neocities.org/Abracadabra.html

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