If you don't know Perl then why the fuck are you defending his code?
This makes zero sense.
I want him to feel good and bathe in abundance and love and that's why I
"fight" for socio-economic alternatives day in and day out ... but this
is not a mailing list for crazy people who can't even code properly (his
code is the worst Perl code I have ever seen) ...
On 21/04/2019 00:44, MP via AGI wrote:
I'll admit, yes, I don't understand Perl. What I largely go by is his
older JavaScript implementation, which is still... A mess. I guess a
large reason why I feel a need to defend him is because I have a
horrific time conveying my thoughts to others, and I see that in him
with his style of writing and bizarre terminology he uses.
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On Apr 20, 2019, 5:29 PM, justcamel < [email protected]> wrote:
I have coded in 30+ languages from ASM to C++. I have coded in
Perl for 20+ years. I have hacked thousands of websites, hundreds
of computer games and reverse engineered even more. I have won
several programming and hacking challenges. I have worked as a
system engineer, software engineer, ethical hacker, malware
analyst, etc., etc., etc., .... that's "what i got" and I tell you
that his code does nothing at all. It does not tackle anything ...
not even TIC TAC TOE.
Bringing up a theoretical concept like AIXI shows how little you
understand.
He made no attempt. He creates nonsensical horse shit. In his
crazy mind it might be an attempt but it isn't. As stated before
... if you argue that 15000 lines of horse shit are just "too
complex" for us to understand then you are just as crazy as him
... and I believe you to be his alter ego anyway because you
always post after him and defend him. This has been going on for
ages ...
I don't work on AGI ... I communicate the need for cooperative
monetary systems, degrowth, a #basicincome, obsoleting the
work-for-income paradigm and 4 billion #bullshitjobs so we have
enough time to actually come up with AGI before our society and
biosphere collapse. I deem this to be as important as AGI ... and
if AGI turns out to take another 100 years to crack I still want
to have an inhabitable planet. That's what I do and your penis
might be waaaaaaay longer than mine ... you still don't understand
Perl code nor AGI for shit.
On 21/04/2019 00:20, MP via AGI wrote:
Well hold on now, I never claimed to think his code is AGI. What
I admire about it is that it's one of the few attempts at solving
it - a real, honest, genuine attempt at the grand challenge. It's
not some elusive corporate thing we'd never see the source code
or even programs from; It's at least *something*
What about things like the Godel Machine and AIXI? Are you going
to shit on them too because the math is too hard for you to
understand?
What about kurzweil's pattern recognition theory of mind?
Dianetics?
How about SOAR or ACT-R? What's wrong, lisp got your tongue?
And you have the Nigel AGI, Novamente, and a host of other claims
that are nothing more than baseless hype with no substance behind
them. Yet you won't make any fuss about that because they've
given you concepts easy enough for a small minded individual like
yourself to digest and make you feel smart about the illusion of
knowing how the mind works.
My point is that he's made an attempt. Maybe not a good one,
maybe not even a functional one, but he's at least one of the few
people to actively work on it.
Again, what do you have to show?
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On Apr 20, 2019, 5:12 PM, justcamel < [email protected]> wrote:
Don't get me wrong ... I love you as a human being ... I see
you as my human brother and love you with all of my heart ...
but you are fucking stupid for even arguing. I could shit on
my keyboard and have the keystrokes converted into random
compiling Perl code and you would argue that it's potential
AGI ... that's how horrible you seem to be at understanding
Perl and AGI.
On 21/04/2019 00:08, MP via AGI wrote:
Have you even tried to read his code for yourself and tried
to understand it?
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On Apr 20, 2019, 5:06 PM, justcamel < [email protected]>
wrote:
Do you even realize how stupid it is to defend a spammer
with a code that consists of 15.000 nonsensical lines
... who now writes 3 pages about this nonsensical
concept of "Latin AI" ... like intelligence has anything
to do with Russian, English or Latin ... like you tackle
AGI by switching from Russian to Latin ... and by
hardcoding 100 random words via global arrays ... and
again ... his code does N O T H I N G.
If you don't understand this then maybe read some
mailing list you actually understand and don't defend
spam that has been going on for decades ...
On 20/04/2019 23:51, MP via AGI wrote:
Hey, at least he's doing something with his life.
Where's any work of yours you spent decades on? Even if
he's completely wrong - which I'm sure he is - at least
he has something he can claim as his life's work.
I don't appreciate anyone here belittling him,
honestly. Yes, I know, it's mostly ramblings, but
again, he's at least trying to tackle the grand
challenge. What do any of his attackers have instead?
Absolutely nothing.
This toxic behavior against him is disgusting.
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On Apr 20, 2019, 4:47 PM, justcamel <
[email protected]> wrote:
Amazing that one brain can be so full of nonsense
and still allow the human to operate in this world ...
On 20/04/2019 23:24, A.T. Murray wrote:
Three days ago on impulse we began coding a Latin
AI Mind in JavaScript for MSIE. We used JavaScript
for the sake of what culture snobs call
"accessability". In art or in culture, if a work
is "accessable", it means that even hoi polloi can
appreciate it. We classicists of ancient Greek and
Latin are extremely snobby, exceeded in this
regard perhaps only by the Egyptologists and by
those who know Sanskrit. In fact, our local
university newspaper had an article a few weeks
ago claiming that there are five million modern
speakers of Sanskrit and only nine individual
speakers worldwide who speak Latin as a second
language. Immediately I took offense because they
obviously did not include memetipsum among the
precious nine speakers of Latin. On the Internet I
tried to hunt down the source of this allegation,
this lese-majestation, this Chushingura-worthy
objurgation that only nine Earthlings speak Latin.
The insult and the non-inclusion festered in my
Latin-speaking mind so much that I decided three
days ago to show them that not only are there more
than nine Latin-speakers, but that even imbecile
Windoze machines can speak and think in Latin. And
once I launched the Latin AI project, I discovered
that the fun and excitement of it all grew on me
and sucked me in stronger and stronger -- citius,
altius, fortius. Sure, it's just a hobby, but it's
better than fiddling while Notre Dame burns.
For my first release of the Mens Latina three
nights ago, I simply did a mutatis mutandis of
changing the interface of my previous AI from
English into Latin, and I changed the links at the
top from English links into Latin links. Then I
ran it up the Internet flagpole to see if anybody
would salute it, but nobody did.
For my second release I actually inserted some
Latin concepts into the MindBoot sequence, but I
had a terrible time trying to figure out a new
name for the English word "MindBoot". At first I
was going to call it the OmniScium as if it knew
everything, but then I settled on PraeScium as the
sequence of innate prior knowledge that gets the
AI up and running. I did some more mutatis of the
mutandis by changing the names of the main
thinking modules from English into Latin. But when
I ran the AI, it reduplicated the final word of
its only innate idea and it said "EGO SUM PERSONA
PERSONA". Today for a third release we need to
troubleshoot the problem.
For the third release we have added one more
innate idea, "TU ES HOMO" for "You are a human
being." We put some temporary activation on the
pronoun "TU" so that the Latin AI would find the
activated idea and speak it. Unfortunately, the AI
says "TU ES HOMO HOMO". Something is still causing
reduplication.
Into the "PraeScium" MindBoot section we added the
words "QUID" for "what" and "EST" for "is", so
that the SpreadAct module could ask a question
about any new, unknown word. We mutandied the
necessary mutatis in SpreadAct and we began to see
some actual thinking in Latin, some conversation
between Robo Sapiens and Homo Sapiens. We entered
the word "terra" and the AI said, "QUID EST
TERRA". We answered "TERRA EST RES" and the AI
asked us, "QUID EST RES". It is now possible to
ask the AI "quid sum ego" but, to quote Vergil,
responsa non dabantur fida satis.
Mentis versio Abra003A in die Sat Apr 20 08:26:34
PDT 2019
Robo Sapiens: TU ES HOMO HOMO
Homo Sapiens: terra
Robo Sapiens: QUID EST TERRA
Homo Sapiens: terra est res
Robo Sapiens: QUID EST RES
Homo Sapiens:
Robo Sapiens:
Homo Sapiens: quid sum ego
Robo Sapiens: TU ES HOMO HOMO ES HOMO HOMO
Homo Sapiens:
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