I'll admit, yes, I don't understand Perl. What I largely go by is his older JavaScript implementation, which is still... A mess. I guess a large reason why I feel a need to defend him is because I have a horrific time conveying my thoughts to others, and I see that in him with his style of writing and bizarre terminology he uses.
Sent from ProtonMail mobile -------- Original Message -------- On Apr 20, 2019, 5:29 PM, justcamel wrote: > I have coded in 30+ languages from ASM to C++. I have coded in Perl for 20+ > years. I have hacked thousands of websites, hundreds of computer games and > reverse engineered even more. I have won several programming and hacking > challenges. I have worked as a system engineer, software engineer, ethical > hacker, malware analyst, etc., etc., etc., .... that's "what i got" and I > tell you that his code does nothing at all. It does not tackle anything ... > not even TIC TAC TOE. > > Bringing up a theoretical concept like AIXI shows how little you understand. > > He made no attempt. He creates nonsensical horse shit. In his crazy mind it > might be an attempt but it isn't. As stated before ... if you argue that > 15000 lines of horse shit are just "too complex" for us to understand then > you are just as crazy as him ... and I believe you to be his alter ego anyway > because you always post after him and defend him. This has been going on for > ages ... > > I don't work on AGI ... I communicate the need for cooperative monetary > systems, degrowth, a #basicincome, obsoleting the work-for-income paradigm > and 4 billion #bullshitjobs so we have enough time to actually come up with > AGI before our society and biosphere collapse. I deem this to be as important > as AGI ... and if AGI turns out to take another 100 years to crack I still > want to have an inhabitable planet. That's what I do and your penis might be > waaaaaaay longer than mine ... you still don't understand Perl code nor AGI > for shit. > > On 21/04/2019 00:20, MP via AGI wrote: > >> Well hold on now, I never claimed to think his code is AGI. What I admire >> about it is that it's one of the few attempts at solving it - a real, >> honest, genuine attempt at the grand challenge. It's not some elusive >> corporate thing we'd never see the source code or even programs from; It's >> at least *something* >> >> What about things like the Godel Machine and AIXI? Are you going to shit on >> them too because the math is too hard for you to understand? >> >> What about kurzweil's pattern recognition theory of mind? >> >> Dianetics? >> >> How about SOAR or ACT-R? What's wrong, lisp got your tongue? >> >> And you have the Nigel AGI, Novamente, and a host of other claims that are >> nothing more than baseless hype with no substance behind them. Yet you won't >> make any fuss about that because they've given you concepts easy enough for >> a small minded individual like yourself to digest and make you feel smart >> about the illusion of knowing how the mind works. >> >> My point is that he's made an attempt. Maybe not a good one, maybe not even >> a functional one, but he's at least one of the few people to actively work >> on it. >> >> Again, what do you have to show? >> >> Sent from ProtonMail mobile >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> On Apr 20, 2019, 5:12 PM, justcamel < [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Don't get me wrong ... I love you as a human being ... I see you as my >>> human brother and love you with all of my heart ... but you are fucking >>> stupid for even arguing. I could shit on my keyboard and have the >>> keystrokes converted into random compiling Perl code and you would argue >>> that it's potential AGI ... that's how horrible you seem to be at >>> understanding Perl and AGI. >>> >>> On 21/04/2019 00:08, MP via AGI wrote: >>> >>>> Have you even tried to read his code for yourself and tried to understand >>>> it? >>>> >>>> Sent from ProtonMail mobile >>>> >>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>> On Apr 20, 2019, 5:06 PM, justcamel < [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Do you even realize how stupid it is to defend a spammer with a code that >>>>> consists of 15.000 nonsensical lines ... who now writes 3 pages about >>>>> this nonsensical concept of "Latin AI" ... like intelligence has anything >>>>> to do with Russian, English or Latin ... like you tackle AGI by switching >>>>> from Russian to Latin ... and by hardcoding 100 random words via global >>>>> arrays ... and again ... his code does N O T H I N G. >>>>> >>>>> If you don't understand this then maybe read some mailing list you >>>>> actually understand and don't defend spam that has been going on for >>>>> decades ... >>>>> >>>>> On 20/04/2019 23:51, MP via AGI wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey, at least he's doing something with his life. Where's any work of >>>>>> yours you spent decades on? Even if he's completely wrong - which I'm >>>>>> sure he is - at least he has something he can claim as his life's work. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't appreciate anyone here belittling him, honestly. Yes, I know, >>>>>> it's mostly ramblings, but again, he's at least trying to tackle the >>>>>> grand challenge. What do any of his attackers have instead? Absolutely >>>>>> nothing. >>>>>> >>>>>> This toxic behavior against him is disgusting. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail mobile >>>>>> >>>>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>>>> On Apr 20, 2019, 4:47 PM, justcamel < [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Amazing that one brain can be so full of nonsense and still allow the >>>>>>> human to operate in this world ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20/04/2019 23:24, A.T. Murray wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Three days ago on impulse we began coding a Latin AI Mind in >>>>>>>> JavaScript for MSIE. We used JavaScript for the sake of what culture >>>>>>>> snobs call "accessability". In art or in culture, if a work is >>>>>>>> "accessable", it means that even hoi polloi can appreciate it. We >>>>>>>> classicists of ancient Greek and Latin are extremely snobby, exceeded >>>>>>>> in this regard perhaps only by the Egyptologists and by those who know >>>>>>>> Sanskrit. In fact, our local university newspaper had an article a few >>>>>>>> weeks ago claiming that there are five million modern speakers of >>>>>>>> Sanskrit and only nine individual speakers worldwide who speak Latin >>>>>>>> as a second language. Immediately I took offense because they >>>>>>>> obviously did not include memetipsum among the precious nine speakers >>>>>>>> of Latin. On the Internet I tried to hunt down the source of this >>>>>>>> allegation, this lese-majestation, this Chushingura-worthy objurgation >>>>>>>> that only nine Earthlings speak Latin. The insult and the >>>>>>>> non-inclusion festered in my Latin-speaking mind so much that I >>>>>>>> decided three days ago to show them that not only are there more than >>>>>>>> nine Latin-speakers, but that even imbecile Windoze machines can speak >>>>>>>> and think in Latin. And once I launched the Latin AI project, I >>>>>>>> discovered that the fun and excitement of it all grew on me and sucked >>>>>>>> me in stronger and stronger -- citius, altius, fortius. Sure, it's >>>>>>>> just a hobby, but it's better than fiddling while Notre Dame burns. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For my first release of the Mens Latina three nights ago, I simply did >>>>>>>> a mutatis mutandis of changing the interface of my previous AI from >>>>>>>> English into Latin, and I changed the links at the top from English >>>>>>>> links into Latin links. Then I ran it up the Internet flagpole to see >>>>>>>> if anybody would salute it, but nobody did. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For my second release I actually inserted some Latin concepts into the >>>>>>>> MindBoot sequence, but I had a terrible time trying to figure out a >>>>>>>> new name for the English word "MindBoot". At first I was going to call >>>>>>>> it the OmniScium as if it knew everything, but then I settled on >>>>>>>> PraeScium as the sequence of innate prior knowledge that gets the AI >>>>>>>> up and running. I did some more mutatis of the mutandis by changing >>>>>>>> the names of the main thinking modules from English into Latin. But >>>>>>>> when I ran the AI, it reduplicated the final word of its only innate >>>>>>>> idea and it said "EGO SUM PERSONA PERSONA". Today for a third release >>>>>>>> we need to troubleshoot the problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For the third release we have added one more innate idea, "TU ES HOMO" >>>>>>>> for "You are a human being." We put some temporary activation on the >>>>>>>> pronoun "TU" so that the Latin AI would find the activated idea and >>>>>>>> speak it. Unfortunately, the AI says "TU ES HOMO HOMO". Something is >>>>>>>> still causing reduplication. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Into the "PraeScium" MindBoot section we added the words "QUID" for >>>>>>>> "what" and "EST" for "is", so that the SpreadAct module could ask a >>>>>>>> question about any new, unknown word. We mutandied the necessary >>>>>>>> mutatis in SpreadAct and we began to see some actual thinking in >>>>>>>> Latin, some conversation between Robo Sapiens and Homo Sapiens. We >>>>>>>> entered the word "terra" and the AI said, "QUID EST TERRA". We >>>>>>>> answered "TERRA EST RES" and the AI asked us, "QUID EST RES". It is >>>>>>>> now possible to ask the AI "quid sum ego" but, to quote Vergil, >>>>>>>> responsa non dabantur fida satis. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mentis versio Abra003A in die Sat Apr 20 08:26:34 PDT 2019 >>>>>>>> Robo Sapiens: TU ES HOMO HOMO >>>>>>>> Homo Sapiens: terra >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Robo Sapiens: QUID EST TERRA >>>>>>>> Homo Sapiens: terra est res >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Robo Sapiens: QUID EST RES >>>>>>>> Homo Sapiens: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Robo Sapiens: >>>>>>>> Homo Sapiens: quid sum ego >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Robo Sapiens: TU ES HOMO HOMO ES HOMO HOMO >>>>>>>> Homo Sapiens: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> http://ai.neocities.org/Abracadabra.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://medium.com/p/237437640203 > > [Artificial General Intelligence List](https://agi.topicbox.com/latest) / AGI > / see [discussions](https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi) + > [participants](https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members) + [delivery > options](https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription) > [Permalink](https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T9baf73b813714625-Mc5ce7891701493b866b68123) ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T9baf73b813714625-Mc24c82d0692f6d4fff8879df Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
