Perhaps the detection of simple things that are composed of simpler but
more general things is still rooted in metaphysics because we don't have
good models (of how abstraction, composition and so on work) which can
explain it adequately.
Jim Bromer


On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 1:06 PM Mike Archbold <[email protected]> wrote:

> "complex things are composition of simpler but more general things"
>
> I've long felt that the general things, really invariant principles,
> are rooted in metaphysics. But respectable scientists don't like to
> say metaphysics because it conjures up images of Heidegger's "pompous
> nonsense" (which is how Bunge defines metaphysics in the popular
> sense) and somebody working on philosophy is bound to get nowhere,
> right? Really, "first principles" is a more scientific or at least
> more sober sounding term.
>
> On 8/8/19, Brett N Martensen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Jim, You are right on the money!
> > It's called transfer learning and comes from having generalization in a
> > compositional hierarchy  in which more complex things are composition of
> > simpler but more general things. And the lowest level simplest things yet
> > most general are the stimuli that come from sensors and that also makes
> it
> > grounded.
> > Brett

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