James,

> I tend to see negative case counts as providing atomic action roll-backs (in 
> relational database state transition terms) -- kind of "undo" operation -- 
> but not necessarily to exactly the "prior" state.

Yes this makes broad sense.   A piece of negative evidence would be
something with potential to invalidate or remove or erase a piece of
positive evidence.

Along the same lines, how then do you interpret imaginary quantities
of evidence?

This question basically has to do with the uncertain-logic
interpretation of complex-number multiplication.  The big difference
between Belnap or Kauffman/Varela's 4-valued logic and the 4-valued
logic of (1,-1,i,-i) in the complex plane is that the multiplication
(intersection) operators
in the former act coordinatewise, whereas complex number
multiplication mixes the coordinates -- which in a sense is where the
quantum funkiness comes from.  I was wondering if the Link Theory gave
some justification for complex number multiplication from a logic
perspective, but it seems not to.   Kauffmann seems not to have gone
there either in spite of being deep into 4-valued logic *and* being a
master of quantum topology etc. ...


> But I hasten to add, I differ with Kauffman and most others in the Laws of 
> Form/ANPA community on this (including Etter, Shoup and even GS Brown 
> himself).  Everyone but me, it seems, either sees space as primary OR sees 
> spacetime as inseparably emergent as a whole.

If I understand it correctly, the sort of space that GS Brown and
Kauffman think is primary is a sort of proto-space, it's not physical
space

They do look at distinctions in this sort of proto-space as giving
rise to time ... but then I think Kauffmann looks at physical space as
emerging from the algebras immanent in multiple
coupled/interpenetrating distinctions, in a way analogous to but more
complex than how time arises...



ben



>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 2:38 PM Ben Goertzel <b...@goertzel.org> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting, will reflect a bit on that...
>>
>> James, what is your interpretation of negative case counts, in this model?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 11:57 AM James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > The correct link is on archive.org:
>> >
>> > https://web.archive.org/web/20130511044913/http://www.boundaryinstitute.org/bi/articles/Link_Theory_intro.pdf
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 1:17 PM James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> See Appendix A - Complex Case Counts for what qualifies as a dynamical 
>> >> logic's 4-valued (1, i, -1, -i) approach to deriving the core of quantum 
>> >> mechanics (complex probability amplitudes) as a theorem of the 
>> >> combinatorics of 4 real-valued, 2x2 spinor matrices.
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 1:47 PM Ben Goertzel <b...@goertzel.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> To kick off the new year ... here is Part 2 of a trilogy of papers I'm
>> >>> working on ...
>> >>>
>> >>> "Paraconsistent Foundations for Probabilistic Reasoning, Programming
>> >>> and Concept Formation
>> >>> "
>> >>>
>> >>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2012.14474
>> >>>
>> >>> this one grounds (key aspects of) PLN in paraconsistent logic, and
>> >>> thus makes clearer the programming-language Curry-Howard cognate of
>> >>> PLN (via the known prog-lang cognate of relevant sorts of
>> >>> paraconsistent logic).   Also some other related stuff like
>> >>> paraconsistent Formal Concept Analysis...
>> >>>
>> >>> Part 3 (another paper) will sketchily represent the core OpenCog
>> >>> cognitive algorithms as  Galois connections involving
>> >>> continuation-passing-style metagraph chronomorphisms , where the
>> >>> metagraph targets are labeled w/ probabilistic/paraconsistent
>> >>> dependent types as outlined in Part 2 ...
>> >>>
>> >>> But I will defer starting on that till I finish some work on the SNet
>> >>> roadmap and related issues ...
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Ben Goertzel, PhD
>> >>> http://goertzel.org
>> >>>
>> >>> “Words exist because of meaning; once you've got the meaning you can
>> >>> forget the words.  How can we build an AGI who will forget words so I
>> >>> can have a word with him?” -- Zhuangzhi++
>> >
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>> --
>> Ben Goertzel, PhD
>> http://goertzel.org
>> 
>> “Words exist because of meaning; once you've got the meaning you can
>> forget the words.  How can we build an AGI who will forget words so I
>> can have a word with him?” -- Zhuangzhi++
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