Hey I just noticed the coincidence between Manthey's reliance on Parseval's Identity and my quote from Wagner! Now we're onto something!
On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:07 PM James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote: > The ANPA guy most likely to get me to change my perspective is Michael > Manthey, a CS professor whose recent patent on "space like computations" > <https://patents.google.com/patent/US20160148110A1/en> extends beyond > complex probabilities to quanternic probabilities. He would, I think tend > to cast negative case counts as teleological: > > "So the conclusion to the question 'What is the relationship between > causality -- the explanation of events in terms of causes -- and teleology > -- the explanation of events in terms of purposes?' is that both are true > and equivalent accounts of reality, to the extent that the physical > universe indeed has the structure U(1) × SU(2) × SU(3) × SO(4), which is > the Standard Model of quantum mechanics augmented with an entangling > projection into 3+1d via SO(4)." > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 3:41 PM James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I tend to see negative case counts as providing atomic action roll-backs >> (in relational database state transition terms) -- kind of "undo" operation >> -- but not necessarily to exactly the "prior" state. In physical/QM terms >> they provide for time symmetric flow of information/causality -- permitting >> the "future" to influence/constrain/cause the "past" in the case of >> negative case counts. But I hasten to add, I differ with Kauffman and >> most others in the Laws of Form/ANPA community on this (including Etter, >> Shoup and even GS Brown himself). Everyone but me, it seems, either sees >> space as primary OR sees spacetime as inseparably emergent as a whole. >> >> My tendency is more with Wagner: “You see, son, here time becomes space.” >> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 2:38 PM Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Interesting, will reflect a bit on that... >>> >>> James, what is your interpretation of negative case counts, in this >>> model? >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 11:57 AM James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > The correct link is on archive.org: >>> > >>> > >>> https://web.archive.org/web/20130511044913/http://www.boundaryinstitute.org/bi/articles/Link_Theory_intro.pdf >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 1:17 PM James Bowery <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> See Appendix A - Complex Case Counts for what qualifies as a >>> dynamical logic's 4-valued (1, i, -1, -i) approach to deriving the core of >>> quantum mechanics (complex probability amplitudes) as a theorem of the >>> combinatorics of 4 real-valued, 2x2 spinor matrices. >>> >> >>> >> On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 1:47 PM Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> To kick off the new year ... here is Part 2 of a trilogy of papers >>> I'm >>> >>> working on ... >>> >>> >>> >>> "Paraconsistent Foundations for Probabilistic Reasoning, Programming >>> >>> and Concept Formation >>> >>> " >>> >>> >>> >>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2012.14474 >>> >>> >>> >>> this one grounds (key aspects of) PLN in paraconsistent logic, and >>> >>> thus makes clearer the programming-language Curry-Howard cognate of >>> >>> PLN (via the known prog-lang cognate of relevant sorts of >>> >>> paraconsistent logic). Also some other related stuff like >>> >>> paraconsistent Formal Concept Analysis... >>> >>> >>> >>> Part 3 (another paper) will sketchily represent the core OpenCog >>> >>> cognitive algorithms as Galois connections involving >>> >>> continuation-passing-style metagraph chronomorphisms , where the >>> >>> metagraph targets are labeled w/ probabilistic/paraconsistent >>> >>> dependent types as outlined in Part 2 ... >>> >>> >>> >>> But I will defer starting on that till I finish some work on the SNet >>> >>> roadmap and related issues ... >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Ben Goertzel, PhD >>> >>> http://goertzel.org >>> >>> >>> >>> “Words exist because of meaning; once you've got the meaning you can >>> >>> forget the words. How can we build an AGI who will forget words so I >>> >>> can have a word with him?” -- Zhuangzhi++ >>> > >>> > Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + >>> participants + delivery options Permalink >>> >>> -- >>> Ben Goertzel, PhD >>> http://goertzel.org >>> >>> “Words exist because of meaning; once you've got the meaning you can >>> forget the words. How can we build an AGI who will forget words so I >>> can have a word with him?” -- Zhuangzhi++ ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T425c68f0cea319cd-M4e8f4d031a006385c7f16b71 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
