I'm not sure what counts as a "real AI researcher" Matt. I think you mean "AGI" by that quip. There isn't, to my knowledge, a working AGI, so it seems difficult to cite anybody as a "real AI researcher" on the grounds of producing a working AGI. What's left to resort to? Well, the researcher's methods along with a subjective, gut feel as far as whether the proposed architecture might eventually yield AGI-ish results. Colin's methods are first and foremost scientific. You can't fault that. That leaves the impression you have as far as whether or not the approach might work. Personally, I think his approach has a sporting chance of eventually working to some extent at least.
On 5/4/21, Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote: > "In my view, there will be no progress toward human-level AI until > researchers stop trying to design computational slaves for capitalism and > start taking the genuine source of intelligence seriously: fluctuating > electric sheep." > > Plus more nonsense about neural fluctuations or EM fields or quantum > tunneling being the source of consciousness. > > Real AI researchers know that consciousness is irrelevant to AI. If your > program passes the Turing test, it would be conscious as far as you could > tell. We don't bother because dumbing down a computer to appear human > really isn't useful. > > Colin Hales has already admitted he has no clue how to solve AGI. So let's > try some magic incantations and see what happens. > > Hint: by consciousness, you probably mean what thinking feels like. It > feels like you want to keep doing it by not dying, which increases your > odds of passing on your DNA. > > > On Mon, May 3, 2021, 1:46 PM Mike Archbold <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It's nice to see Colin, a regular on this list, in this editorial. >> >> https://www.salon.com/2021/04/30/why-artificial-intelligence-research-might-be-going-down-a-dead-end/ >> >> "Relatedly, Colin Hales, an artificial intelligence researcher at the >> University of Melbourne, has observed how strange it is that AI >> scientists have not yet tried to create an artificial brain in the >> same way other scientists have made artificial hearts, stomachs, or >> livers. Instead, AI researchers have created theoretical models of >> neuron patterns without their corresponding physics. It is as if >> instead of building airplanes, AI researchers are designing flight >> simulators that never leave the ground, Hales says." ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7c7052974ce450f1-Me624750274300a10db4f56f1 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
