On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 9:20 PM Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, May 14, 2024, 11:23 AM James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yet another demonstration of how Alan Turing poisoned the future with his >> damnable "test" that places mimicry of humans over truth. >> > > Truth is whatever *the majority* believes. The Earth is round. Vaccines > are safe and effective. You have an immortal soul. How do you know? > You're confusing decision (SDT) with truth (AIT). Neither, by itself, is intelligence (AIXI). I agree that compression is a better Intelligence test than the Turing > Test. > Neither is a test of intelligence for the reasons I just stated. Compression is a better measure of truth *relative to* a given set of observational data. The Turing Test is a measure of mimicry of human intelligence and humans differ in their values aka their SDT utility functions. Therein lies the rub. > But Intelligence is not the goal. Labor automation is the $1 quadrillion > goal. > Here's what I *think* you're trying to say: "The global economy is the *friendly* AGI we've been waiting for because it embodies the utility function of *the majority*." That "The Social Construction of Reality <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Social_Construction_of_Reality>" is the fifth most-important book of 20th century sociology, exposes the root of the global economy's bad alignment. The libertarian ideal of Economic Man is rooted in reality more than is a majority vote that Pi is 3.000... <https://www.straightdope.com/21341975/did-a-state-legislature-once-pass-a-law-saying-pi-equals-3>. But Man is rooted in natural ecology more than merely *human* ecology. Natural ecology includes the extended phenotypes of parasites and the evolution of virulence via horizontal transmission. The global economy's imposition of a borderless world and a supremacist "politics of inclusion" affords no safe spaces for anyone. It is clearly evolving parasitic virulence via horizontal transmission in the guise of a travesty of libertarianism's ideal of Economic Man. Not even the wealthy have safe spaces anymore. > The Turing Test is a check that your training set is relevant. > Up to the point that human mimicry is relevant to labor automation. ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T17fa3f27f63a882a-Mc247ba0d747d96cb72ec6122 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
