On Tuesday, May 14, 2024, at 11:21 AM, James Bowery wrote: > > Yet another demonstration of how Alan Turing poisoned the future with his > damnable "test" that places mimicry of humans over truth.

What Turing actually said in 1950. https://redirect.cs.umbc.edu/courses/471/papers/turing.pdf The question was "Can machines think?" Turing carefully defined his terms, both what a computer is (it could be a human following an algorithm using pencil and paper) and what it means to "think". I find it interesting that he proposed the same method proposed by Ivan Moony, to program a learning algorithm and raise it like a child. Or alternatively, he estimated the amount of code as 60 developers working 50 years at the rate of 1000 bits per day on a computer with 10^9 bits of memory using components no faster than what was already available in 1950. (Mechanical relays are as fast as neurons, and vacuum tubes are 1000 times faster). Turing anticipated objections to the idea of thinking machines and answered them, including objections based on consciousness, religion, and extrasensory perception. -- -- Matt Mahoney, mattmahone...@gmail.com ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T17fa3f27f63a882a-M0f549e56fecc0ee391bbadd4 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription