Doesn't work like that.  Your "solution" Sergio predetermines the way you 
conceive problems - and you never conceive them properly in real world terms.

The normal problem here is: "where do I choose to eat? 1)  what 
restaurant/diner do I choose? or 2) do I buy food and eat in? or 3) do I choose 
something from what's in the fridge?"

1) There is no "set" - or field - of restaurants to choose from.  On the 
non-AGI reasoning you use below, you'll say: "oh choose from the set of 
restaurants in town". Firstly, you don't have that info. in your head, 2ndly, 
you have a choice of whether you want to find out about all the restaurants in 
town - just about nobody ever does that, 3rdly, you may have a problem defining 
what constitutes a restaurant/eating establishment, and therefore what the 
local set consists of.....

and then we really get started, because your program is applicable to every 
town you're in throughout your life, not just the one today. And the groups of 
restaurants and menus in towns you've never visited -   incl. totally new kinds 
of towns, restaurants and menus that don't yet exist -  are not predictable.

So there is no basic field of restaurants/menus from which you can create a set 
that can grow.

The same reasoning and unpredictable constituents apply to 2) and 3).

In reality, people typically only consider a few restaurants or alternatives at 
most in a non-systematic way.  

There is no "core menu"/set from which we gradually build an ever-expanding 
menu of menus. Check out Barry Schwartz "The Paradox of Choice" on the 
mind-bending problems of just shopping for food in US supermarkets.

Sergio, you've never applied your theory to a real world problem - neither has 
Ben with PLN or Opencog, or any other AGI-er I know of.







From: Sergio Pissanetzky 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 7:35 PM
To: AGI 
Subject: RE: [agi] Prediction Did Not Work (except in narrow ai.)


MIKE > What shall I have for lunch today? 

SERGIO > Well, what's the menu? That's the set. 

- Oh, you also serve chinese food?

- Great My set just changed. 

Sets change, Mike. You are the one who is not getting it. 

 

 

From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:51 AM
To: AGI
Subject: Re: [agi] Prediction Did Not Work (except in narrow ai.)

 

Sergio:But there is one thing that is infinite: Mike's infinite variety. I 
KNOW, REPEAT, I KNOW! DON'T TELL ME THIS AGAIN! I know that there is an 
infinite variety

 

Sergio,

 

You didn't get it. There are NO SETS in real world problems. Not infinite 
sets.None.  Try naming one where there is a set - from scientific to tech. 
problems to everyday practical problems: What shall have I lunch for today? 
What shall I watch on TV or the net tonight?Or: What are we going to do re the 
Euro crisis? How can we cure cancer? Set, please. 

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