Peter, et al, Gawd, it is right in front of you all, and you *JUST CAN'T SEE IT*, or more likely, you refuse to recognize it.
All life is an N-body problem. Instead of gravitational, EMF, and other forces, life brings desire, hunger, pain, envy, hate, jealousy, the IRS, your spouse, your neighbors, God, the weather, etc., etc., as forces ALL interacting TOGETHER, not as neat little sub-systems ready to drop into an AI simulation, but in one big all-interacting mess. The only apparent hope for dealing with this is SOME sort of analog, be it literal analog computation, or somehow twisting computers to compute in an analog sort of way, which they are NOT (yet) very good at. Given a simulator and a goal: to achieve the goal; simply start the simulator from the present situation, and "guide" it by changing parameters that you control as you seek a state that you desire. Should you be unable to achieve a desired state, restart and try another approach. Repeat until successful. Goal seeking intelligence becomes fairly simple once you can simulate reality, and our brains appear to be able to do just that - otherwise how and why would we ever dream? Note that electric circuit simulators like SPICE do NOT run at a speed that is inversely proportional to complexity, but rather at a slower rate that goes as n log n. The "log n" term is the precise cost of applying computers that compute functions where true analogs are needed. Note that for systems as complex as we are, even the log n term grows to be a unmanageable. The ratio between Ben's comments and reality goes as log n. I see a conceivably (at least to me) possible approach for making computers without the log n overhead, that would seem to be well adapted to AGI, though NOT as presently envisioned by most people here. I have invited discussion in the past, but there were no takers. Perhaps now would be a good time to revisit this? Steve ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
