cool, I look forward to seeing what you come up with ;) ... ben On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:10 AM, Azn A <[email protected]> wrote:
> Okay, I have started work on this email list + forum combination. This > is actually a fairly simply project. I recently did: > http://forumtrolls.org just for fun... Took about three weeks. I want to > call the new AGI site: http://acceleratinghumanity.org > > It will have everything mentioned by Ben i.e. tagging, group wikis, super > fast facet search, responsive, etc etc. Google groups is joke. > > Thoughts? > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Azn A <[email protected]> wrote: > >> That's an interesting site, but seems not to be an email list / forum >>> combination... >> >> >> Yeah, It's a lot better than an email list / forum combination. IMO, the >> reason Twine didn't catch on was because it wasn't a product that people >> could latch onto. It was such a huge and vast undertaking with such general >> ambiguity when everything is becoming smaller and more niche oriented. If I >> am into techno, I go to techno sites, not Twine, perhaps a techno/house >> blog even, or maybe even more secluded a specific techno artist's blog to >> find out his tour dates. Really, a web organizer? Zzzzzzzzzz. That's not >> something everyday people care about. So it failed. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:43 AM, Mark Nuzzolilo II <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Here is a start: >>> >>> http://support.google.com/groups/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1311298 >>> >>> http://support.google.com/groups/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1311325 >>> >>> http://support.google.com/groups/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1047904 >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Mark Nuzzolilo II <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Google groups does support meta-tagging. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I hadn't noticed that... could you point me to a page giving >>>> instructions on how to use that feature? >>>> >>>> >>>>> It's not entirely intuitive though. This same exact request was >>>>> brought up in Zero State and we ended up using Groups with its tagging >>>>> feature, as it would have not been worth the time to re-invent the wheel. >>>>> On Jul 8, 2012 10:32 AM, "Ben Goertzel" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> No, meta-tagging is not part of GroupServer now; somebody would have >>>>>> to hack it in there... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Mike Tintner < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > Meta-tagging sounds like a v.g. & v.obvious idea. Are there any >>>>>> examples of >>>>>> > it in action? Maybe I missed something on those links... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> > From: "Ben Goertzel" <[email protected]> >>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:15 PM >>>>>> > To: "AGI" <[email protected]> >>>>>> > Subject: [agi] email list + forum combination? >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Just musing a bit... >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Repeatedly there have been requests for this list to be replaced >>>>>> by a >>>>>> >> forum. Repeatedly AGI forum sites have been created and not >>>>>> used... >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I've looked previously for an email/forum combination, and the two >>>>>> >> closest things I've found are Google Groups, and >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> http://groupserver.org/downloads >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> An example built using the GroupServer software is >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> http://forums.e-democracy.org/groups/ >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> One can host a list on >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> http://onlinegroups.net/ >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> but for a list of this size, it would cost too much ($128/month). >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On the other hand, one can install the GroupServer software >>>>>> oneself... >>>>>> >> but I don't have time to mess with that... >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> An advantage of GroupServer is that it's customizable, so an >>>>>> >> enterprising coder could add useful features... >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> According to my thinking, what would be really useful for a list >>>>>> like >>>>>> >> this one, would be GroupServer plus a couple extra features: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> 1) >>>>>> >> The ability, through the Web UI, for a poster or site >>>>>> administrator to >>>>>> >> attach a META tag to a post >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> 2) >>>>>> >> The ability to view all threads or posts with a given META tag >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I'm aware that services like Twine have provided this and more, >>>>>> but I >>>>>> >> think the reason they didn't catch on is that people are >>>>>> habituated to >>>>>> >> dealing with their email, not to logging into some special >>>>>> >> messaging/forum site.... So what's needed IMO is something that >>>>>> can >>>>>> >> be used just like a good old email list, but can also support >>>>>> labeling >>>>>> >> (META tagging) and search based on these labels. A recommended >>>>>> list >>>>>> >> of labels could then be supplied on a wiki page. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I wonder if anyone on this site has the combination of technical >>>>>> >> ability, time and inclination to create something like this? I >>>>>> >> suspect it would be useful beyond the AGI list... >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> ben >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> -- >>>>>> >> Ben Goertzel, PhD >>>>>> >> http://goertzel.org >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> ------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >> AGI >>>>>> >> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >>>>>> >> RSS Feed: >>>>>> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/6952829-59a2eca5 >>>>>> >> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >>>>>> >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ------------------------------------------- >>>>>> > AGI >>>>>> > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >>>>>> > RSS Feed: >>>>>> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-11ac2389 >>>>>> > Modify Your Subscription: >>>>>> > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >>>>>> > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD >>>>>> http://goertzel.org >>>>>> >>>>>> "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>>>> AGI >>>>>> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >>>>>> RSS Feed: >>>>>> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/2552162-5fb4be76 >>>>>> >>>>>> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >>>>>> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >>>>>> >>>>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>>>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-11ac2389> | >>>>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>>>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD >>>> http://goertzel.org >>>> >>>> "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche >>>> >>>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/2552162-5fb4be76> | >>>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>>> >>> >>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10514698-9a8cda1e> | >>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>> >> >> > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-11ac2389> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
