>
> That's an interesting site, but seems not to be an email list / forum
> combination...


Yeah, It's a lot better than an email list / forum combination. IMO, the
reason Twine didn't catch on was because it wasn't a product that people
could latch onto. It was such a huge and vast undertaking with such general
ambiguity when everything is becoming smaller and more niche oriented. If I
am into techno, I go to techno sites, not Twine, perhaps a techno/house
blog even, or maybe even more secluded a specific techno artist's blog to
find out his tour dates. Really, a web organizer? Zzzzzzzzzz. That's not
something everyday people care about. So it failed.



On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:43 AM, Mark Nuzzolilo II <[email protected]>wrote:

> Here is a start:
>
> http://support.google.com/groups/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1311298
>
> http://support.google.com/groups/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1311325
>
> http://support.google.com/groups/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1047904
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Mark Nuzzolilo II <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Google groups does support meta-tagging.
>>>
>>
>> I hadn't noticed that... could you point me to a page giving instructions
>> on how to use that feature?
>>
>>
>>>  It's not entirely intuitive though.  This same exact request was
>>> brought up in Zero State and we ended up using Groups with its tagging
>>> feature, as it would have not been worth the time to re-invent the wheel.
>>> On Jul 8, 2012 10:32 AM, "Ben Goertzel" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  No, meta-tagging is not part of GroupServer now; somebody would have
>>>> to hack it in there...
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Meta-tagging sounds like a v.g. & v.obvious idea. Are there any
>>>> examples of
>>>> > it in action?  Maybe I missed something on those links...
>>>> >
>>>> > --------------------------------------------------
>>>> > From: "Ben Goertzel" <[email protected]>
>>>> > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:15 PM
>>>> > To: "AGI" <[email protected]>
>>>> > Subject: [agi] email list + forum combination?
>>>> >
>>>> >> Just musing a bit...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Repeatedly there have been requests for this list to be replaced by a
>>>> >> forum.  Repeatedly AGI forum sites have been created and not used...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I've looked previously for an email/forum combination, and the two
>>>> >> closest things I've found are Google Groups, and
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://groupserver.org/downloads
>>>> >>
>>>> >> An example built using the GroupServer software is
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://forums.e-democracy.org/groups/
>>>> >>
>>>> >> One can host a list on
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://onlinegroups.net/
>>>> >>
>>>> >> but for a list of this size, it would cost too much ($128/month).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On the other hand, one can install the GroupServer software
>>>> oneself...
>>>> >> but I don't have time to mess with that...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> An advantage of GroupServer is that it's customizable, so an
>>>> >> enterprising coder could add useful features...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> According to my thinking, what would be really useful for a list like
>>>> >> this one, would be GroupServer plus a couple extra features:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 1)
>>>> >> The ability, through the Web UI, for a poster or site administrator
>>>> to
>>>> >> attach a META tag to a post
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2)
>>>> >> The ability to view all threads or posts with a given META tag
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'm aware that services like Twine have provided this and more, but I
>>>> >> think the reason they didn't catch on is that people are habituated
>>>> to
>>>> >> dealing with their email, not to logging into some special
>>>> >> messaging/forum site....  So what's needed IMO is something that can
>>>> >> be used just like a good old email list, but can also support
>>>> labeling
>>>> >> (META tagging) and search based on these labels.  A recommended list
>>>> >> of labels could then be supplied on a wiki page.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I wonder if anyone on this site has the combination of technical
>>>> >> ability, time and inclination to create something like this?  I
>>>> >> suspect it would be useful beyond the AGI list...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ben
>>>> >>
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>>>> >>
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