Okay, I have started work on this email list + forum combination. This is actually a fairly simply project. I recently did: http://forumtrolls.org just for fun... Took about three weeks. I want to call the new AGI site: http://acceleratinghumanity.org
It will have everything mentioned by Ben i.e. tagging, group wikis, super fast facet search, responsive, etc etc. Google groups is joke. Thoughts? On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Azn A <[email protected]> wrote: > That's an interesting site, but seems not to be an email list / forum >> combination... > > > Yeah, It's a lot better than an email list / forum combination. IMO, the > reason Twine didn't catch on was because it wasn't a product that people > could latch onto. It was such a huge and vast undertaking with such general > ambiguity when everything is becoming smaller and more niche oriented. If I > am into techno, I go to techno sites, not Twine, perhaps a techno/house > blog even, or maybe even more secluded a specific techno artist's blog to > find out his tour dates. Really, a web organizer? Zzzzzzzzzz. That's not > something everyday people care about. So it failed. > > > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:43 AM, Mark Nuzzolilo II <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Here is a start: >> >> http://support.google.com/groups/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1311298 >> >> http://support.google.com/groups/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1311325 >> >> http://support.google.com/groups/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1047904 >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Mark Nuzzolilo II <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Google groups does support meta-tagging. >>>> >>> >>> I hadn't noticed that... could you point me to a page giving >>> instructions on how to use that feature? >>> >>> >>>> It's not entirely intuitive though. This same exact request was >>>> brought up in Zero State and we ended up using Groups with its tagging >>>> feature, as it would have not been worth the time to re-invent the wheel. >>>> On Jul 8, 2012 10:32 AM, "Ben Goertzel" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> No, meta-tagging is not part of GroupServer now; somebody would have >>>>> to hack it in there... >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > Meta-tagging sounds like a v.g. & v.obvious idea. Are there any >>>>> examples of >>>>> > it in action? Maybe I missed something on those links... >>>>> > >>>>> > -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> > From: "Ben Goertzel" <[email protected]> >>>>> > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:15 PM >>>>> > To: "AGI" <[email protected]> >>>>> > Subject: [agi] email list + forum combination? >>>>> > >>>>> >> Just musing a bit... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Repeatedly there have been requests for this list to be replaced by >>>>> a >>>>> >> forum. Repeatedly AGI forum sites have been created and not used... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I've looked previously for an email/forum combination, and the two >>>>> >> closest things I've found are Google Groups, and >>>>> >> >>>>> >> http://groupserver.org/downloads >>>>> >> >>>>> >> An example built using the GroupServer software is >>>>> >> >>>>> >> http://forums.e-democracy.org/groups/ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> One can host a list on >>>>> >> >>>>> >> http://onlinegroups.net/ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> but for a list of this size, it would cost too much ($128/month). >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On the other hand, one can install the GroupServer software >>>>> oneself... >>>>> >> but I don't have time to mess with that... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> An advantage of GroupServer is that it's customizable, so an >>>>> >> enterprising coder could add useful features... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> According to my thinking, what would be really useful for a list >>>>> like >>>>> >> this one, would be GroupServer plus a couple extra features: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 1) >>>>> >> The ability, through the Web UI, for a poster or site administrator >>>>> to >>>>> >> attach a META tag to a post >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 2) >>>>> >> The ability to view all threads or posts with a given META tag >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I'm aware that services like Twine have provided this and more, but >>>>> I >>>>> >> think the reason they didn't catch on is that people are habituated >>>>> to >>>>> >> dealing with their email, not to logging into some special >>>>> >> messaging/forum site.... So what's needed IMO is something that can >>>>> >> be used just like a good old email list, but can also support >>>>> labeling >>>>> >> (META tagging) and search based on these labels. A recommended list >>>>> >> of labels could then be supplied on a wiki page. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I wonder if anyone on this site has the combination of technical >>>>> >> ability, time and inclination to create something like this? I >>>>> >> suspect it would be useful beyond the AGI list... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> ben >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> Ben Goertzel, PhD >>>>> >> http://goertzel.org >>>>> >> >>>>> >> "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> ------------------------------------------- >>>>> >> AGI >>>>> >> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >>>>> >> RSS Feed: >>>>> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/6952829-59a2eca5 >>>>> >> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >>>>> >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > ------------------------------------------- >>>>> > AGI >>>>> > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >>>>> > RSS Feed: >>>>> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-11ac2389 >>>>> > Modify Your Subscription: >>>>> > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >>>>> > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD >>>>> http://goertzel.org >>>>> >>>>> "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>>> AGI >>>>> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >>>>> RSS Feed: >>>>> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/2552162-5fb4be76 >>>>> >>>>> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >>>>> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >>>>> >>>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-11ac2389> | >>>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ben Goertzel, PhD >>> http://goertzel.org >>> >>> "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche >>> >>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/2552162-5fb4be76> | >>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>> >> >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10514698-9a8cda1e> | >> Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
