Mark, Google groups is completely in flexible and finding just the right information can be a challenge. In my opinion, it's like using an OS from 2000 vs. 2012.
Here is what I have in mind this: http://acceleratinghumanity.org/AH_diagram.png A complete AGI hub. Everything will be completely integrated. I already have the framework from my current project: http://davissource.org/overview.html On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > cool, I look forward to seeing what you come up with ;) ... ben > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:10 AM, Azn A <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Okay, I have started work on this email list + forum combination. This >> is actually a fairly simply project. I recently did: >> http://forumtrolls.org just for fun... Took about three weeks. I want >> to call the new AGI site: http://acceleratinghumanity.org >> >> It will have everything mentioned by Ben i.e. tagging, group wikis, >> super fast facet search, responsive, etc etc. Google groups is joke. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Azn A <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> That's an interesting site, but seems not to be an email list / forum >>>> combination... >>> >>> >>> Yeah, It's a lot better than an email list / forum combination. IMO, the >>> reason Twine didn't catch on was because it wasn't a product that people >>> could latch onto. It was such a huge and vast undertaking with such general >>> ambiguity when everything is becoming smaller and more niche oriented. If I >>> am into techno, I go to techno sites, not Twine, perhaps a techno/house >>> blog even, or maybe even more secluded a specific techno artist's blog to >>> find out his tour dates. Really, a web organizer? Zzzzzzzzzz. That's not >>> something everyday people care about. So it failed. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:43 AM, Mark Nuzzolilo II <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Here is a start: >>>> >>>> http://support.google.com/groups/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1311298 >>>> >>>> http://support.google.com/groups/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1311325 >>>> >>>> http://support.google.com/groups/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1047904 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Mark Nuzzolilo II >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Google groups does support meta-tagging. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I hadn't noticed that... could you point me to a page giving >>>>> instructions on how to use that feature? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> It's not entirely intuitive though. This same exact request was >>>>>> brought up in Zero State and we ended up using Groups with its tagging >>>>>> feature, as it would have not been worth the time to re-invent the wheel. >>>>>> On Jul 8, 2012 10:32 AM, "Ben Goertzel" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> No, meta-tagging is not part of GroupServer now; somebody would have >>>>>>> to hack it in there... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Mike Tintner < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> > Meta-tagging sounds like a v.g. & v.obvious idea. Are there any >>>>>>> examples of >>>>>>> > it in action? Maybe I missed something on those links... >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> > From: "Ben Goertzel" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:15 PM >>>>>>> > To: "AGI" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> > Subject: [agi] email list + forum combination? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >> Just musing a bit... >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Repeatedly there have been requests for this list to be replaced >>>>>>> by a >>>>>>> >> forum. Repeatedly AGI forum sites have been created and not >>>>>>> used... >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> I've looked previously for an email/forum combination, and the two >>>>>>> >> closest things I've found are Google Groups, and >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> http://groupserver.org/downloads >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> An example built using the GroupServer software is >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> http://forums.e-democracy.org/groups/ >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> One can host a list on >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> http://onlinegroups.net/ >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> but for a list of this size, it would cost too much ($128/month). >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On the other hand, one can install the GroupServer software >>>>>>> oneself... >>>>>>> >> but I don't have time to mess with that... >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> An advantage of GroupServer is that it's customizable, so an >>>>>>> >> enterprising coder could add useful features... >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> According to my thinking, what would be really useful for a list >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> >> this one, would be GroupServer plus a couple extra features: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> 1) >>>>>>> >> The ability, through the Web UI, for a poster or site >>>>>>> administrator to >>>>>>> >> attach a META tag to a post >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> 2) >>>>>>> >> The ability to view all threads or posts with a given META tag >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> I'm aware that services like Twine have provided this and more, >>>>>>> but I >>>>>>> >> think the reason they didn't catch on is that people are >>>>>>> habituated to >>>>>>> >> dealing with their email, not to logging into some special >>>>>>> >> messaging/forum site.... So what's needed IMO is something that >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> >> be used just like a good old email list, but can also support >>>>>>> labeling >>>>>>> >> (META tagging) and search based on these labels. A recommended >>>>>>> list >>>>>>> >> of labels could then be supplied on a wiki page. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> I wonder if anyone on this site has the combination of technical >>>>>>> >> ability, time and inclination to create something like this? 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