Steve,
The mathematics here is slightly out.
In the real world, there are actually infinite solutions to any given problem,
not one.
In the rational realm which exists only in artificial mental and physical
worlds, people act as if there is one, but this is purely a **convention.**
The solution to a mathematical problem like 2 +2 = ? of "4" is only one of an
infinity of possible solutions to that problem. To say "4" is "right" is purely
a convention, not an absolute truth.
Modern maths, not to mention the entire history of maths, agrees with this -
we've been through this here quite a lot - you couldn't have paid attention.
If you think there is only one solution to anything, you are, philosophically
speaking, extremely narrow-minded, narrow-AI-minded, and not the kind of
creative, resourceful, resilient person who can always come up with new
solutions to problems - both at a specific and at a general, metacognitive
level.
AGI's are not machines that get the "right" solution. Those are narrow AI's.
AGI's are and will be creative machines that can endlessly produce new
solutions to any given problem, - endlessly give you new ideas.
You are still buried in narrow AI.
In the real world, in science, technology, arts, history and the entire economy
there are not "right" solutions - the ipad isn't the "right" solution to a
tablet. There isn't a "right" AGI project. There are "good-and-bad" solutions
with pro's and con's, which are more or less profitable and useful.
This is a psychologically pluralist world - but our culture hasn't yet fully
made the transition, although it's happening relentlessly. We've become
culturally pluralist but not yet psychologically pluralist. You and narrow AI
are rigid, psychological monists.
Shape up, open your mind, broaden your horizons, become a flexible thinker -
and completely rethink your approach to AGI.
From: Steve Richfield
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:00 PM
To: AGI
Subject: Re: [agi] Real World/ Creative Reasoning - what no one gets about AGI
Todor, Mike, et al,
>From a mathematical sense, a "solution" is simply a restatement of a "problem"
>in a particular desirable way, e.g. starting with "x=...".
In the real world, there is one set of "equations" that describes our physical
system, and another set of equations that describes our situation, e.g. having
a bunch of blocks in front of us. There is another "equation" that describes
what we want from the solution, e.g. the blocks stacked in a particular way.
When we solve this system of simultaneous equations, we learn what action is
needed.
Done perfectly, we would get all possible solutions at once. However, it
appears that we produce solutions one-at-a-time.
"Creativity" is what you use when you lack the ability to simply find the
solution that has the highest value. It is a poor substitute, but it seems to
work for us.
Steve
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