After writing my post, I realised single-sense perception is almost
certainly impossible - and it's a sign of our old, still disembodied,
bookish culture that it took me a while to realise it.
If you think about it, any robot is manoeuvring about the world - and
everything it sees comes with a POV - is and HAS to be considered in terms
of the objects-in-the-visual-scene's distance from, and position relative
to, its own body.
Real-world vision involves a continual embodied engagement with the scene
ahead. Even if the scene is a foto in a book, you are continually
positioning your body relative to the book.
Single-sense perception might not be a good idea even for an
industrial-style robot, fixed in one position, with objects presented to it
on a conveyor belt - a robot which could actually be sub-AGI, if it could
pick up *any* of an endlessly diverse range of simple objects.
That's the missing part of the robot test you outlined, Alan. If it's AGI,
it shouldn't be a narrow AI test of putting one square object into one
square hole. The robot should be required to put *any* of an endless range
of simple toy objects into *any* of an endless range of simple containers.
{"Think General")
That's AGI - and if you solve it, you could be the next Bill Gates - there
are super-commercial possibilities there.
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From: "Alan Grimes" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 6:21 AM
To: "AGI" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [agi] Analog Computation
Mike Tintner wrote:
P.S. The classic evidence for common sense perception re AGI is - if I
remember rightly - that a newborn infant can already open its mouth to
unconsciously mimic its parent doing the same.
Yes mirroring is important, but I would argue that it is possible to
consider modalities individually without too much loss.
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