Ben: that's easy, these [[all patterns]]  are all obviously susceptible to 
lossy compression using algorithms native to the brain...

Total shameless waffle. You haven’t the slightest idea of what you’re talking 
about, any more than when you claimed a program could produce all Da Vinci’s 
paintings.

Explain how a single algorithm can produce the first three patterns AND then 
any example of a cellular automaton AND then any patterns which will be 
produced for your algorithm AFTER you have defined it. If you have a concept of 
“pattern”, that’s what you must be able to do – embrace not only known patterns 
but also all patterns yet to be created.

How IOW are you proposing that a single algorithm can identify/produce *any* 
kind of elements in *any* kind of regular relationships?

And while you’re at it, you might as well explain how a single algorithm can 
identify/produce **any and all** algorithms – because that is essentially the 
same claim you are making. If there’s a pattern for all patterns, there’s an 
algorithm for all algorithms. And there’s a formula for all formulae.

Total cobblers. Reality: patterns, algorithms and formulae are specialist 
through and through, with no AGI powers of generalization whatsoever.

From: Ben Goertzel 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:37 PM
To: AGI 
Subject: Re: [agi] Boris Explains His Theory




  If you want to put that mathematically, take a whole set of diverse patterns 
– Koch curve, Mandelbrot, herringbone, cellular automaton etc . etc. – and 
explain how the brain is able to abstract from *all of them together* and 
recognize them collectively as “patterns”  (and not just as Koch 
curves/herringbones etc. etc).

  Where’s the pattern in a set of diverse patterns, B & B? And where’s the 
complexity, Jim?


that's easy, these are all obviously susceptible to lossy compression using 
algorithms native to the brain...

ben 
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