On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Jim Bromer <[email protected]> wrote:
> These specifications are not feasible and therefore not reasonable.  I
> have a feeling that if IBM or Google could've the would've.

They are making progress, not excuses.

> Furthermore, many of my
> specifications would be more like design specifications.

Specifications first, then design. It is easy to specify a design and
then declare success even though it doesn't work. Nobody said AGI is
easy.

Tell me what it would take to solve these problems. Obviously a
solution must exist. The evidence is between your ears.


> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> Can you be ahem more specific about your ideal specification?
>>
>> A specification describes what a program should do. For AGI, we
>> generally mean it should be able to do anything that a human could do.
>> More practically, it would be anything that you might pay a human to
>> do (because these are goals that investors would be willing to fund).
>>
>> A more detailed specification might list specific, intermediate goals
>> or tests, such as:
>> 1. Ability to fill in missing words in text with human level accuracy.
>> 2. Ability to pass college level final exams in most subjects.
>> 3. Ability to match captions to images.
>> 4. Ability to classify videos as funny or not.
>> 5. If equipped with a camera and robot arm, ability to catch and throw a 
>> ball.
>>
>>> Do any AGI projects meet your criteria?
>>
>> I believe all of these problems will eventually be solved. However I
>> don't believe that anyone on this list has the resources to do it
>> themselves.
>>
>>
>> -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected]

-- Matt Mahoney, [email protected]


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