Ah well, I don't regard this as serious (although I accept people are
working hard etc).
I guess Opencog's roadmap is a little like saying: "we're going to build
this artificial cell in 2012-13 which will do all these different things,
such as selective intake of substances, etc. etc." Venter would never make
any such claim.
The gap between present technology and the target technology is so vast -
essentially it is being claimed that an entire independent machine *system*
can be built, when there is no such thing as an independent machine
ystem - and there is no explanation of how this can/will be achieved,
starting from highly dependent hyperspecialist programs.
This illustrates that you can apparently have the odd specific target, and
yet still be wildly unrealistic.
More particularly, it shows that you have to present not just specific
targets, but a realistic idea of how you are going to achieve them.
This roadmap for me is pure fantasyville - and based on wildly simplistic
conceptions of the nature of all the cognitive operations involved.
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Mahoney
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 11:55 PM
To: AGI
Subject: Re: [agi] I have it all figured out... Well, almost.
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]>
wrote:
What I meant was: do you see any AGI projects as well-specified?
The only serious attempt at AGI being discussed on this list is
probably OpenCog. They describe the project goals and timeline here:
http://opencog.org/roadmap/
So far, they are nowhere close to passing any of the tests I
described. I have serious doubts that they can acquire the necessary
computing power and training data, and the people and funding needed
to write the software. There is a substantial disagreement about the
costs that I estimated based on information theory, but they have
offered no specifics. I don't think they know.
I am sure Ben will have more to say about this.
-- Matt Mahoney, [email protected]
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