CHAIR

...

It should be able to handle any transformation of the concept, as in

DRAW ME (or POINT TO/RECOGNIZE)  A CHAIR IN TWO PIECES –..

..SQUASHED
..IN PIECES
-HALF VISIBLE
..WITH AN ARM MISSING
...WITH NO SEAT
..IN POLKA DOTS
...WITH RED STRIPES

Concepts are designed for a world of everchanging, everevolving multiform 
objects (and actions).  Semantic networks have zero creativity or adaptability 
– are applicable only to a uniform set of objects, (basically a database) -  
and also, crucially, have zero ability to physically recognize or interact with 
the relevant objects. I’ve been into it at length recently. You’re the one not 
paying attention.

The suggestion that networks or similar can handle concepts is completely 
absurd.

This is yet another form of the central problem of AGI, which you clearly do 
not understand – and I’m not trying to be abusive  – I’ve been realising this 
again recently – people here are culturally punchdrunk with concepts like 
*concept* and *creativity*, and just don’t understand them in terms of AGI.

From: Jim Bromer 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 2:04 PM
To: AGI 
Subject: Re: [agi] Re: Superficiality Produces Misunderstanding - Not Good 
Enough

Mike Tintner <[email protected]> wrote:
AI doesn’t handle concepts.


Give me one example to prove that AI doesn't handle concepts.
Jim Bromer



On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]> wrote:

  Jim: Mike refuses to try to understand what I am saying because he would have 
to give up his sense of a superior point of view in order to understand it

  Concepts have nothing to do with semantic networks. 
  AI doesn’t handle concepts.
  That is the challenge for AGI.
  The form of concepts is graphics.
  The referents of concepts are infinite realms..

  What are you saying that is relevant to this, or that can challenge this – 
from any evidence?

















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