AGI isn't my "god". That's ridiculous. It's a tool I want to build, because
it's exciting to me.

I read an article recently -- wish I had a link for you -- on research that
showed that believers in a "loving God" do exactly the opposite of what you
say. They are *more* likely than average to cheat & otherwise screw people
over, because they know they'll be forgiven.



On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Steve Richfield <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Everyone,
>
> There is an important point that everyone here is missing:
>
> Believers actually do better in our world than do non-believers. Why?
> Because others know that believers think God is watching them, so others
> expect believers to be more trust-worthy than non-believers are. Hence,
> with greater trust, believers are trusted with more, they build bigger
> fortunes, have more wives, and sire more believers.
>
> Looking around, most people can see that believers usually have more than
> do non-believers. Why? "Obviously" (if you believe the hype) because God
> has rewarded them for their belief!!!
>
> My longtime friend Dan, a Baptist minister with a DD degree, related his
> impressions when he first met my family, where no one had even the
> slightest hint of religious leanings. Dan had "learned" that you can't
> trust non-believers, yet we literally saved his life from a downward
> spiral, with no expectation of any sort of direct reward. This turned into
> hours of discussion about the cold hard logic of some forms of altruism,
> e.g. seeing how little it takes to turn someone else's life around, to
> potentially be used in the future to turn our own lives around. In short,
> the value of what we learned exceeded the cost of saving Dan.
>
> There is a COST in non-belief that isn't exacted by God, but rather it is
> exacted by society in the form of a sort of social tax that keeps away many
> valuable contacts. Sure, you might think that a devout believer is a little
> nuts, but that is better than their belief that you, a non-believer, are
> untrustworthy and will steal anything you can get away with.
>
> Hence, reject the meme of God at your peril. There is a good reason why
> everyone on this forum is too broke to fully fund their interests - because
> your "God", AGI, isn't their God.
>
> Steve
> ==============
>
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Piaget Modeler <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Whether their host is biological or synthetic, I think memes will always
>> find a way to reproduce.
>>
>> ~PM
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:20:52 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [agi] Minds and Gods: The Cognitive Neuroscience of
>> Religious belief
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>> It would be interesting, though, PM, to see if the AGIs humanity
>> eventually produces are sufficiently similar to us to be susceptible to the
>> same parasitic exploitation.
>>
>>
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