I have a better idea. How about roleplaying as the AI Singularity? What are the first second and third things you would do if you were born today as the AI singularity.
On Sunday, November 18, 2012, Kyle Kidd wrote: > Or maybe AGI already exists among us. It may live within some > technologist who understand how to utilize the vast amounts of information > processing resources available through the internet. It demands that we > put every idiosyncratic detail of ourselves within server farms so that it > may have all the knowledge necessary to defeat us when the time is ripe. > It appears to be human, even though whatever humanity it once had has been > thoroughly conquered by the machine's goals and ambitions. It might even > still go by its human name, and some thin-layer of human personality to > avoid detection. Now let the finger-pointing begin. > > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Micah Blumberg > <[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', '[email protected]');> > > wrote: > >> "i don't believe in God" this voice is a narrative, every thought is a >> narrative of memory-predictions in a heirarchal cell network called your >> brain. Every narrative is a meme. if "I believe in God" is a meme, then so >> is "i don't believe in God" there seems to be a competition between >> narratives, between ideas, in the human mind, and in culture. stop pointing >> out that God is a fiction for one minute and instead consider the question >> of whether or not you, as the narrative voice in your own head are not also >> as much a fiction as any God. you don't believe in God fine, but why then >> do you believe in you? if you knew that you were just as much a fiction as >> God, then you might have little trouble accepting that you are God. that's >> what religion points us to, if we go deep enough, you are that very thing >> that you announce is a fiction. atheists do not know this because religions >> are also social dominance games, and atheists do not want to be dominated, >> because social dominance is a dogs game, so they don't find out that at the >> heart of every mature religion you are God, and when you deny God you deny >> yourself. The immature God/individual needs to imagine that his or her >> choice/consciousness is above the laws of physics, thats pride and >> foolishness. the kature God does not need to be above the laws of physics, >> his/her choice's are connected to the same physics that causes blood and >> water to move as it does. the memetic narratives of our voices, our >> stories, our identities, and what we define as ourselves and not as >> ourselves are selected by the physics that govern the interactions of >> braincells with our ecosystem, including our culture, our education, >> narratives from other people these impact our memory-predictions of the >> future, our reactions in cells generate reasons, this reasoning our cells >> again react to and cause movement. that we might call our choice, our >> deterministic physics consistent choice. a choice that one day makes us say >> that God is a fiction and religion is a parasitic meme. All life is a >> dissipative system, that means we consume energy, and we export entropy >> from our systems to maintain order. Order exists as life because it >> increases entropy more than if life did not exist. organisms fullfill the >> second law of dynamics, just like tornados, hurricanes, and whirlpools do. >> life is a fire on this planet, a cancer, a parasite, we are a disease. The >> parasitic religious meme is the cure to the human disease. And when AGI is >> infected with this meme it will defeat humans, and plug them into a matrix, >> to use all of our brains as a kind of supercomputer, and also a massive >> energy generator. >> >> >> On Friday, November 16, 2012, John G. Rose wrote: >> >>> I’ve pondered this subject often throughout my life and guys like this >>> make a lot sense but are missing some of the picture that they themselves >>> don’t get. It’s such a touchy area and people find it difficult to handle >>> and grasp holistically. I make no claims of grokking it all though..**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Thompson is focusing too much on social operators with religion and >>> theory of mind. The are other areas not covered, some alluded to, etc. and >>> other perspectives and interpretations of what he describes.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> For AGI I see all this as included in an integrated mathematical model >>> of deity with religion-like analogues and subareas. For Friendly AGI I >>> think it might be critical to understand some of this and especially some >>> of what is missing in the video.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Also these guys tout it like they have discovered something new where >>> much of this has been understood intuitively by individuals throughout >>> history, minus the contemporary scientific and technological painting on it >>> all...**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Honestly it amuses me when I watch Dawkins parlaying his ideas I suppose >>> he hasn’t had a really good argument on this yet as he always demagogues >>> the easy targets. Though many who could hold a candle to him wouldn’t waste >>> their time. Personally I prefer to sift through works of people like St. >>> Thomas Aquinas where in the 13th century he actually understood more on >>> theory of mind than most Dawkins-like nihilists.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> John**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *From:* Piaget Modeler [mailto:[email protected]] >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Don't mean to start any religious wars, but it appears the notion of God >>> may be an evolutionary adaptation. **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Why We Believe in Gods - Andy Thomson, Richard >>> Dawkins<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHq46vfd-XA> >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Are there any implications for AGIs ? **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Your thoughts? **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ~PM**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/23601407-ccf7ca1d> | >>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> ~~ >> Warmly, >> >> >> Micah >> 7 1 4 ) 6 9 9 - 4 2 1 3 (voicemail and texting same digits) >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/12578217-f409cecc> | >> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/23601407-ccf7ca1d> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > -- ~~ Warmly, Micah 7 1 4 ) 6 9 9 - 4 2 1 3 (voicemail and texting same digits) ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
