1. Appoint myself dictator of the universe. 2
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Micah Blumberg <[email protected]> wrote: > I have a better idea. How about roleplaying as the AI Singularity? What > are the first second and third things you would do if you were born today > as the AI singularity. > > On Sunday, November 18, 2012, Kyle Kidd wrote: > >> Or maybe AGI already exists among us. It may live within some >> technologist who understand how to utilize the vast amounts of information >> processing resources available through the internet. It demands that we >> put every idiosyncratic detail of ourselves within server farms so that it >> may have all the knowledge necessary to defeat us when the time is ripe. >> It appears to be human, even though whatever humanity it once had has been >> thoroughly conquered by the machine's goals and ambitions. It might even >> still go by its human name, and some thin-layer of human personality to >> avoid detection. Now let the finger-pointing begin. >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Micah Blumberg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> "i don't believe in God" this voice is a narrative, every thought is a >>> narrative of memory-predictions in a heirarchal cell network called your >>> brain. Every narrative is a meme. if "I believe in God" is a meme, then so >>> is "i don't believe in God" there seems to be a competition between >>> narratives, between ideas, in the human mind, and in culture. stop pointing >>> out that God is a fiction for one minute and instead consider the question >>> of whether or not you, as the narrative voice in your own head are not also >>> as much a fiction as any God. you don't believe in God fine, but why then >>> do you believe in you? if you knew that you were just as much a fiction as >>> God, then you might have little trouble accepting that you are God. that's >>> what religion points us to, if we go deep enough, you are that very thing >>> that you announce is a fiction. atheists do not know this because religions >>> are also social dominance games, and atheists do not want to be dominated, >>> because social dominance is a dogs game, so they don't find out that at the >>> heart of every mature religion you are God, and when you deny God you deny >>> yourself. The immature God/individual needs to imagine that his or her >>> choice/consciousness is above the laws of physics, thats pride and >>> foolishness. the kature God does not need to be above the laws of physics, >>> his/her choice's are connected to the same physics that causes blood and >>> water to move as it does. the memetic narratives of our voices, our >>> stories, our identities, and what we define as ourselves and not as >>> ourselves are selected by the physics that govern the interactions of >>> braincells with our ecosystem, including our culture, our education, >>> narratives from other people these impact our memory-predictions of the >>> future, our reactions in cells generate reasons, this reasoning our cells >>> again react to and cause movement. that we might call our choice, our >>> deterministic physics consistent choice. a choice that one day makes us say >>> that God is a fiction and religion is a parasitic meme. All life is a >>> dissipative system, that means we consume energy, and we export entropy >>> from our systems to maintain order. Order exists as life because it >>> increases entropy more than if life did not exist. organisms fullfill the >>> second law of dynamics, just like tornados, hurricanes, and whirlpools do. >>> life is a fire on this planet, a cancer, a parasite, we are a disease. The >>> parasitic religious meme is the cure to the human disease. And when AGI is >>> infected with this meme it will defeat humans, and plug them into a matrix, >>> to use all of our brains as a kind of supercomputer, and also a massive >>> energy generator. >>> >>> >>> On Friday, November 16, 2012, John G. Rose wrote: >>> >>>> I’ve pondered this subject often throughout my life and guys like >>>> this make a lot sense but are missing some of the picture that they >>>> themselves don’t get. It’s such a touchy area and people find it difficult >>>> to handle and grasp holistically. I make no claims of grokking it all >>>> though..**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Thompson is focusing too much on social operators with religion and >>>> theory of mind. The are other areas not covered, some alluded to, etc. and >>>> other perspectives and interpretations of what he describes.**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> For AGI I see all this as included in an integrated mathematical model >>>> of deity with religion-like analogues and subareas. For Friendly AGI I >>>> think it might be critical to understand some of this and especially some >>>> of what is missing in the video.**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Also these guys tout it like they have discovered something new where >>>> much of this has been understood intuitively by individuals throughout >>>> history, minus the contemporary scientific and technological painting on it >>>> all...**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Honestly it amuses me when I watch Dawkins parlaying his ideas I >>>> suppose he hasn’t had a really good argument on this yet as he always >>>> demagogues the easy targets. Though many who could hold a candle to him >>>> wouldn’t waste their time. Personally I prefer to sift through works of >>>> people like St. Thomas Aquinas where in the 13th century he actually >>>> understood more on theory of mind than most Dawkins-like nihilists.**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> John**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *From:* Piaget Modeler [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Don't mean to start any religious wars, but it appears the notion of >>>> God may be an evolutionary adaptation. **** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Why We Believe in Gods - Andy Thomson, Richard >>>> Dawkins<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHq46vfd-XA> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Are there any implications for AGIs ? **** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Your thoughts? **** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ~PM**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/23601407-ccf7ca1d> | >>>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ~~ >>> Warmly, >>> >>> >>> Micah >>> 7 1 4 ) 6 9 9 - 4 2 1 3 (voicemail and texting same digits) >>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/12578217-f409cecc> | >>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>> >> >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/23601407-ccf7ca1d> | >> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > > -- > > ~~ > Warmly, > > > Micah > 7 1 4 ) 6 9 9 - 4 2 1 3 (voicemail and texting same digits) > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/12578217-f409cecc> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
