On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Matt Mahoney <[email protected]>wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]> > wrote: > > The Wired article linked in the Kurzweil letter on Baxter is a great > > article. It makes clear the need for an AGI robot (wh. Baxter isn't yet) > - > > > > "the average lifetime bill for [programming and operating] an industrial > > robot is half a million dollars or more." > > > > [This, Matt, is an area where you can do real calculations about the > > potential value of an AGI robot] > > As robots do more complex tasks, the cost of programming them will go > up. It is only the hardware that is getting cheaper. > > There has been a long history of efforts to improve software > productivity, things like better programming languages, methodology, > and tools, better collaboration, and more powerful computers. But they > have not kept up with the rising cost of skilled human programmers. I > predict this will be the case for decades to come, even with AGI. > > -- > -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected] > > > There are lots of content contributors to the web, if they could instead be coaxed to contribute programming content, then we could have nice. ya HSPL yada yada lol. Also actually skilled human programmers have been getting cheaper, due to outsourcing and the various "bubble bursts", often seem to go hand in hand with reducing wages. Certainly can't claim wages are increasing. I know as both my parents are programmers, skilled "Senior Developers" I might add, and even major companies like HP, like to implement "austerity measures". I remember a few years back, when the bailouts happened, they decided to just cut everyone's salary by 15% just like that. No questions asked, it was either submit or get fired. My mom even has to help train oversea outsourced people in India. Open source gives a certain measure of free labour, though fact a large bulk of open source code is written by people that get paid to do it. Typically by various companies. Hopefully the bidding feature-request forum I have on back-burner may help to make it more of a crowd-funded donations-based kinda thing. Even a few dollars can go a long way to motivating someone to write a patch. > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/5037279-a88c7a6d > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
