For that matter, even most humans aren't concerned with "needless
suffering on Earth". Even those who claim to be concerned limit their
concerns, and are most concerned with their relatives, friends, and
other social context. People they don't know generally have a very
small consideration.
On 12/31/2012 09:32 AM, Ben Goertzel wrote:
Why do you assume these superintelligent being would have interests,
world-models and motivational structures similar to humans?
What you see as "needless suffering on earth" they may perceive some
other way entirely...
ben g
So your answer is "They are out there and they have decided not to
communicate." implying that they don't care to spare a billionth of the
their resources and intellectual capacity to communicate in the most
efficient/minimal-invasive manner in order to reduce needless suffering on
earth?
Isn't there a discussion going on whether humans should also virtualize all
the animals out there in order to end reduce suffering? I guess a
super-intelligent species would have no problem in stopping pain and fear
for every living thing on this planet within a few minutes?
-- jc
On 12/31/2012 07:25 AM, Ben Goertzel wrote:
Even if John Smart's "Transcension Hypothesis" is correct there would
still
be enough time and possibilities for the transcending civilization to
send
out empathic Von Neumann probes featuring some AGI system before they
disappear into black holes? John argued that super-intelligent species
might
not interfere with us because they want to preserve diversity but i think
that is like saying "Let's not help the jews in the concentration camps
because the few that will survive will write more interesting books.".
That
sounds weird - i know - but i think that is a good analogy?
Not reall a good analogy IMO. It's more like us saying "Let's not
help the ants in that ant-hill because ... well ... they're just ants
and it's simple enough to ignore them ... and after all, they're just
doing ant-ly stuff like Nature intended..." ....
And then of course, if we do help the ants, they probably won't even
realize we are helping them.... Analogously, even if massively
superhuman entities are guiding our civilization somehow, why would
you assume they'd choose to do it by sending an emissary or message in
some comprehensible form? They might just that would be disruptive,
as opposed to taking subtler means...
ben g
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