Nice!

Just looking my G+ that was unchecked for several weeks, I found this nice
post by the Dalai Lama:

Dalai LamaJan 4, 2013  -  Public
The ultimate source of a happy life is warm-heartedness. This means
extending to others the kind of concern we have for ourselves. On a simple
level we find that if we have a compassionate heart we naturally have more
friends. And scientists today are discovering that while anger and hatred
eat into our immune system, warm-heartedness and compassion are good for
our health.

Very relevant. :-)


On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Sergio Donal <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Daniel:
>
> Regarding your concern, in my opinion, intelligence is the capability to
> understand how things work.
>
> And my believe is that everything is interconnected, so we depend on each
> other. Our planet is an ecological system so we depend on the ants and on
> the bacteria.
>
> But even more, what makes sense to me is that our Universe is holistic
> (similar to the theory that a common pattern is repeated at every scale)
> and that its substance, the pattern is LOVE.
>
> It means that, though everything is interconnected we do not notice it at
> first!
> Why?
> Because we are part of this Universe so we have to express the same
> holistic pattern of love. In other words, love is unconditional, meaning
> that when one loves, it does not matter whether that attitude is reciprocal
> or not. One just does it because she/he wants it. Because Loving each other
> we feel that connection resonating that makes us happy. Actually, it is the
> only place where we can seek happiness.
>
> So we have to learn (by reasoning, and reinforcement learning :-) that
> only by loving unconditionally every other being we will find true, ever
> new joy and happiness.
>
> For me, intelligence is all about that, to understand not the abstraction
> or concepts, but to learn how to be happy.
>
> So in brief, if my hypothesis is right, then the smarter the machines are,
> the more compassionate they will be :-)
>
> Best!
> Sergio
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Schwartz, Daniel 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> I really don’t know much about this subject , so if this question has
>> been answered and you know where to find the answer, I’d appreciate it if
>> someone could point it out to me. I’m really curious if there is anyone out
>> there as interested in the subject as me who I can converse with! This
>> seems to be the place!****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I just started researching AGI and I was wondering about questions
>> regarding Ben’s criticisms on Minsky’s book “The society of mind” and “the
>> emotion machine”. Those theories makes a lot of sense to me, but ben thinks
>> “societies” is the wrong way to think about the mind, etc. Why is Minsky’s
>> theories different than bens? I can’t find the source from where he said
>> this, I think it might have been in an interview, but I’m not sure. But the
>> criticism was something along the lines of “Minsky’s mind society does not
>> consider the “synergy” of the mind working together.” ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Here is my rebuttal:****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> In his second book “Emotion Machine” Minsky describes the mind as a
>> series of “resources” instead of societies, but it’s largely the same
>> concept. Anyway, when a person “thinks”, certain “resources” get turned on
>> or off depending on the higher level goals of the question. When someone is
>> in excruciating Pain, most resources turn off, leaving the individual to
>> force to think about how to get rid of the pain. In Love, sometimes it
>> seems as if a whole new “program” is running and blemishes can turn into
>> embellishments—meaning, the “resources” for being turned off by physical,
>> or personality defects is switched off. In the example of Pain, the higher
>> level resource called “Pain” switches off all the other resources.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> How is it wrong to think of the mind as societies or resources as Minsky
>> thinks? Why does the idea of hierarchy societies controlling lesser
>> societies not work? ****
>>
>> I’m also aware that the question of “Where do the algorithms for the
>> higher level societies come from?” But that is answered by the code
>> described in our DNA and which has developed through mysterious events in
>> evolution over thousands of years. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I have not gotten too in depth in the book yet, but I don’ see how this
>> theory lacks as a supplementary framework for OpenCog. I am also familiar
>> with the different sets of learning that OpenCog is, including MOSES and
>> the others. I also have not investigated how these systems work, so maybe
>> they actually do function as switches of on and off resources. OpenCog is
>> supposed to emulate a three year olds mind, right? How is that working out?
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I vaguely understand the pattern theory that ben is all about, and I was
>> wondering also if someone could point out where I can read more of that?
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> **This is so exciting and I am really grateful for everyone who is
>> dedicating their time working on this relatively unknown idea. I am talking
>> to all my friends about and trying to spread the idea of singularity. If I
>> had more knowledge in programming, I’d be on board to help out! I hope that
>> this happens in my lifetime, that it is a benevolent creature, and that it
>> is “sensitive”, caring, like humans. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> As ben loves to say, “why would we care about a few ants or bacteria that
>> die in building a skyscraper?” It is because we realize they are creatures
>> too, and we wouldn’t want them to completely annihilate us. I do not think
>> that the only reason people study them is for reasons to only elevate our
>> understanding of the universe. Why can’t the reason be that we want to help
>> other creatures get better? Just because someone is smarter than another,
>> why wouldn’t it be comprehensible for it to wish to help the lesser? I hope
>> that AGI systems will “feel” that desire. The programmers need to be very
>> careful building this thing, even if that means gambling their dreams of
>> eternity, because we have to consider the future of our children if it
>> turns out to be malevolent, luckily most people are aware of this
>> alternative.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks everybody,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Danny****
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