Maximum entropy production is characteristic of many complex open systems, and is an indirect consequence of energy minimization
Just Google "maximum entropy production principle"; a fairly nontechnical explanation of some of the ideas is here... http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/365/1545/1333.full ben g On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Giovanni Santostasi <[email protected] > wrote: > But here it is claimed that intelligent behavior is associated with > entropy maximization over histories not minimization. What is going on? > Giovanni > > > > On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> There's been a lot of work in the last decades connecting >> physics/communication-theory information with >> computational/algorithmic information... >> >> And of course, algorithmic information is the basis of the Solomonoff / >> Hutter / Schmidhuber etc. approach to AGI >> >> Also recall Read Montague's work portraying cognitive function, esp. >> decision making, in terms of entropy minimization... >> >> So on a conceptual basis, there is certainly nothing shocking here, >> though the results are indeed intriguing .. >> >> -- Ben G >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Giovanni Santostasi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Guys, >>> Sergio >>> Pissanetzky<https://www.facebook.com/sergio.pissanetzky?hc_location=timeline> >>> told us about this idea many many times and he was shunned by almost >>> everybody. >>> Maybe he used a somehow slightly different way to explain it but the his >>> ideas are basically very similar to this. >>> He was missing mostly the little toy models to give practical proof of >>> concept. >>> This is a fundamental breakthrough in my opinion. >>> Giovanni >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Robert Levy <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> "Recent advances in fields ranging from cosmology to computer science >>>> have hinted at a possible deep connection between intelligence and entropy >>>> maximization, but no formal physical relationship between them has yet been >>>> established. Here, we explicitly propose a first step toward such a >>>> relationship in the form of a causal generalization of entropic forces that >>>> we find can cause two defining behaviors of the human “cognitive >>>> niche”—tool use and social cooperation—to spontaneously emerge in simple >>>> physical systems. Our results suggest a potentially general thermodynamic >>>> model of adaptive behavior as a nonequilibrium process in open systems." >>>> >>>> PDF: >>>> http://www.alexwg.org/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alexwg.org%2Fpublications%2FPhysRevLett_110-168702.pdf >>>> >>>> Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZB8TNaG-ik >>>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/17130918-e0ecc803> | >>>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>>> >>> >>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-deec6279> | >>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ben Goertzel, PhD >> http://goertzel.org >> >> "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/17130918-e0ecc803> | >> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-deec6279> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
