In OpenCog terms, this sort of result suggests that it might be interesting to add to the system's goal list, an explicit goal of "Have a lot of possible future options.".... Essentially what the agents in the paper are doing is maximizing the number of available options, it seems...
-- Ben G On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Laurent <[email protected]> wrote: > If you are interested in entropy maximization over future histories and > AGI to define an optimal scientist, you will probably be interested in this > paper: > http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-642-24412-4_28 > and the pdf can be found here: > > http://www.agroparistech.fr/mmip/maths/laurent_orseau/papers/orseau-ALT-2011-knowledge-seeking.pdf > > Laurent > > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 3:19 PM, martin biehl <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Another information theoretic principle with capabilities possibly >> similar to the ones in the paper is empowerment. It can for example also >> make poles swing up: >> http://www.worldscientific.com/doi/abs/10.1142/S0219525912500798 (sorry >> for not providing an open link, if you are willing to wait a day or so, I >> can get it for you, just mail me). >> Empowerment also depends on the possible futures of a state, but on top >> of that on control over these futures ( here is an open access paper on it >> http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0004018 >> ) >> >> Thanks Robert for posting this, it is a very interesting paper. Also this >> came just when I was thinking about quitting my lurking on this list. >> >> Disclaimer: I work with the authors of the papers above. If you are >> interested here is some related work by other people (you guys all know >> Schmidthuber and Ben mentioned him so he is not in the list) I don't >> understand Friston, but it always sounds great. >> >> * >> >> Karl Friston (2012) >> >> A Free Energy Principle for Biological Systems >> >> Entropy, 14, 2100-2121; doi:10.3390/e14112100 >> >> Georg Martius, Ralf Der, Nihat Ay (2013) >> >> Information driven self-organization of complex robotic behaviors >> >> http://arxiv.org/abs/1301.7473 >> >> Susanne Still, David A. Sivak, Anthony J. Bell, and Gavin E. Crooks (2012) >> >> Thermodynamics of Prediction >> >> Phys. Rev. Lett. 109, 120604. >> >> Naftali Tishby, Daniel Polani (2011) >> >> Information Theory of Decisions and Actions >> >> In: Perception-Action Cycle, Springer Series in Cognitive and Neural >> Systems, pp 601-636. >> >> * >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2013/4/21 Tim Tyler <[email protected]> >> >>> On 21/04/2013 00:53, Giovanni Santostasi wrote: >>> >>> But here it is claimed that intelligent behavior is associated with entropy >>> maximization over histories not minimization. What is going on? >>> >>> >>> Roderick Dewar claims to derive more general versions of Prigogine’s >>> principle of minimum entropy production from MaxEnt here: >>> >>> Maximum entropy production and the fluctuation theorem - R C Dewar >>> >>> - http://www.swarmagents.cn/thesis/doc/jake_210.pdf >>> >>> He claims this reproduces Prigogine’s principle without the usual >>> near-equilibrium assumption. >>> >>> Maximum entropy production is much bigger than Prigogine's ideas. >>> >>> -- >>> __________ >>> |im |yler http://timtyler.org/ [email protected] Remove lock to reply. >>> >>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10872673-8f99760d> | >>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>> >> >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/9318651-06687a07> | >> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-deec6279> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
