As a philosopher, I would think that you would like to read. I hope you're not being lazy. Here's a starting point.... http://publications.csail.mit.edu/lcs/pubs/pdf/MIT-LCS-TR-563.pdf
As I said, once you have context, I will be happy to discuss this with you. Gain some context and let's discuss. This is the internet, it's not that hard. Cheers, ~PM Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 18:23:29 +0000 Subject: Re: [agi] I guess I don't have AGI all figured out. From: [email protected] To: [email protected] PM;We can't spoon feed each other endlessly. ..... That is the most cowardly and dishonest statement. It is typical. I am sick of this kind of dishonesty. Put up or shut up. On 2 December 2013 18:17, Piaget Modeler <[email protected]> wrote: We can't spoon feed each other endlessly. Do a little research. Read the book. Let's discuss when you've obtained Drescher's thesis (probably online) or read his book. Always happy to discuss... Cheers, ~PM. Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 18:06:54 +0000 Subject: Re: [agi] I guess I don't have AGI all figured out. From: [email protected] To: [email protected] PM The Schema System synthesized new identifiers to represent novel situations Synthesized what new from what? A proper specific example please.Not a sleight-of-hand handwave. I guarantee you're talking nonsense. Prove me wrong. You should be delighted to discuss - this is the most important thing in AGI - far more important than any of the narrow AI techniques you often discuss in detail. On 2 December 2013 17:59, Piaget Modeler <[email protected]> wrote: Gary Drescher's thesis qua book "Made Up Minds". The Schema System synthesized new identifiers to represent novel situations. True Creativity. True Construction. Mike Tintner, this is the meme that you need to surpress: "a creative algorithm is a physical impossibility". It is interfering with your reasoning ability, and creating a blind spot for you. ~PM Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 15:41:44 +0000 Subject: Re: [agi] I guess I don't have AGI all figured out. From: [email protected] To: [email protected] "Theoretically, contrary to Tintner's argument, it would be feasible to use CBR to discover and represent truly novel situations. However, this theoretical argument is not easy" One example of this creativity. From anywhere or anyone.. Actual or theoretical. I repeat : a creative algorithm is a physical impossibility like perpetual motion, the Immaculate Conception, transubstantiation of wine into the blood of Christ and other such religious fictions of creativity. And a bleeding obvious impossibility if you could just once turn your attention from the "architecture" of algorithms to the finished buildings they produce.. Then you'd see algorithms can't produce new building blocks.Only the same old Lego buildings. If no one can give even a theoretical example - not the slightest proof of concept - you are engaging in a Giant Wank. AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
