"Dominance is not the general force underlying all reality" There has never been a huge civilization without a leader. The primal male urge is to master oneself physically and spiritually and assert this dominance over others. For about 97% of human existence we were nomadic hunter gathers. Yes, for 97% of human existence not only did we not own anything, we had no concept of property. As we were nomadic, we did not live in towns, villages or cities, we were always moving to wherever we could find food, water and shelter. Anything you owned you would have to carry with you which would slow you down and lower your chances of survival and not increase them. In egalitarian societies, which hunter-gather societies were, basic tools were shared as were child-rearing responsibilities. As we had no concept of property, we had not concept of people as property (slavery) or people as sexual property (marriage). It simply did not serve our survival needs. However, there was always a leader.
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:49 PM, just camel <[email protected]> wrote: > Dominance is not the general force underlying all reality. That statement > is just ridiculously stupid. > > There have been civilizations for thousands of years who did not fight > over abundant stuff and who did not seek power over each other and who did > not even know the concept of "dominance". We destroyed their sustainable > civilizations and replaced them with our unsustainable civilization. (We > also said that their understanding of humanity was primitive.) We are > de-evolutionary and we will cease to exist if we fail to overcome > destructive mindsets like yours. > > You are just the victim of a contemporary belief trap. Just like > crusaders, which hunters and free market proponents ... they all thought > that they were right and that some random belief represented universal > truth ... ;-) > > > On 04/05/2014 08:21 PM, Azn A wrote: > >> This is based on your primitive understanding of humanity. Dominance is >> the general force underlying all reality. Adaptation and the struggle to >> survive is a secondary drive in the evolution of animals, behind the desire >> to expand one's power. All life seeks primarily to expand itself. No matter >> what type of situation individuals find themselves in, their will to power >> comes through in some way or another. *Humility* may appear to stem from >> something else, such as altruism or sympathy, when it really originates in >> one's instinct to bring someone under one's own power. Take the desire for >> freedom, independence, and peace. What this is at bottom, is simply the >> will toward self-preservation and existence in general. One wants peace and >> independence so that one is not at risk from the possibly violent actions >> of others. Also, one does not want to become enslaved or subjugated by >> others. So in other words, without a 'will to power' you would not have the >> world you have today. >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10514698-9a8cda1e > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/ > member/?& > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
