PM, On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Piaget Modeler via AGI <[email protected]> wrote:
> So one requirement is to factor in Human readability. > Now that we have moved on from punched cards as input, we could easily reformat between Add A to B giving C. -- and -- C=A+B And further, reformat using verbs and sentence structure from other languages, etc., so there really is NO argument between C and a COBOL-like language, only an argument (if any) whether there should be a way to express SIMPLE statements in a local natural language, and accept simple NL-formatted statements. In short, a COBOL-like front-end for another language like C++ would be close to perfect, though C++ still has a lot of shortcomings for serious AI work that should be addressed at the same time. Any interest out there is defining such a thing? Steve > > > Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:12:48 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [agi] Event Models > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > > > Linux usage is tiny on the desktop, but the desktop seems to be > > shrinking rapidly in relevance, and the numbers for linux everywhere > > else are much higher than 1% of the market. > > > > Other topic... when I was writing cobol I could screen print some > > logic and show it to the client. Try that with Lisp, C etc. Steve > > does have a certain point. Nobody is saying COBOL is a candidate for > > AGI languages (!) but at least the designers WANTED it to be readable > > and not arcane. Thet partly succeeded. > > > > Mike A > > > > > > On 10/15/14, Ben Goertzel via AGI <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I can't remember where I was the 97% figure > > > > > > However, Linux dominates mobile, and has a clear majority of > webservers as > > > well > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Servers_on_the_Internet > > > > > > -- Ben > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Matt Mahoney via AGI < > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> > Would you be surprised if a ragtag group of OSS developers made a > > >> > better > > >> OS > > >> > than Microsoft, IBM or Apple -- one used to power 97% or so of the > > >> Internet > > >> > ? > > >> > > >> Actually the market share for Linux is 1.64%. > > >> > > >> > http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0 > > >> > > >> And the total development effort is quite substantial, similar to > > >> Windows. The difference is in how the work is funded. In the open > > >> source model, information has negative value. You sell yourself by > > >> giving away your work. > > >> > > >> I think a distributed AGI can be funded this way too. But only if > > >> there is some compelling reason to use it before it is fully > > >> developed. > > >> > > >> > I don't think an AGI has to pretend to be human ... > > >> > > >> Yes, we agree on that. Unless we are talking about applications like > > >> uploading or identity theft. But once we solve the problem of modeling > > >> human minds, it is a simple matter to program them to carry out their > > >> predictions of your actions in real time. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected] > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------------------- > > >> AGI > > >> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > > >> RSS Feed: > https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-deec6279 > > >> Modify Your Subscription: > > >> https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > > >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ben Goertzel, PhD > > > http://goertzel.org > > > > > > "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one > > > persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. 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