Thank you and Hi :-)
Next choice.
Yoshi or Hoshi
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Subject: RE: [agi] Couple thoughts
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 20:23:11 +0200
@John
Seems like a strongly-indicated route to go, but scientists might have to
probably decipher Alexander's Band first.
Rob
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Subject: RE: [agi] Couple thoughts
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 05:06:53 -0500
Here’s an idea – send cymatic holograms through DNA to see if the DNA Quantum
Effect transmits the cymatic changes after the light source is removed. IOW see
if continued vibrational changes in the original DNA get transmitted somehow
though some sort memory interlink. John From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
via AGI [mailto:[email protected]]
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To: AGI
Subject: RE: [agi] Couple thoughts Conceptually, the various state layers, as
an architectural paradigm, would be considered. Yes, probably considering
exceptional cellular automata.
The tacit hologram could be a quantum state, as consciousness, probably
utilizing a collection of quantum processes to attain it. The explicit
holograph would probably be enabled via lasers and so forth. It's source/object
data could be transformed in memetic schemata format. To my mind, this would
probably be a sub system with specific functionality. No singularity in it.
I see no silver bullet in any, particular scientific method, just a
relatively-real toolkit we may select from to satisfy the purpose of the
solution with.
Bearing in mind, logically, the system would have to be able to evolve to a
various states of unreason (to become "enlightened") in order to engage with
the knowledge seam of relevance and beyond, and be able to find its way back
again to a descriptive level of decomposition.
In essence then, the holistic system could represent an archetypical
Quantum-Universal SESDLC (Systems Engineering Systems Development Life Cycle),
as a solution type for evolutionary systems - to my mind anyway.
Rob Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:16:02 -0500
Subject: Re: [agi] Couple thoughts
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The applications for holograms cellular automata in AGI?
On Friday, February 27, 2015, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI
<[email protected]> wrote: > From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [agi] Couple thoughts
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 08:04:27 -0500
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI [mailto:[email protected]]
> >
> > To me, the internet's issue would be issues of bandwidth and delay and
> > routing (latency) and so on, and off course availability and robustness
> and all
> > such stuff. Bad choice overall, in my view. Skype apparently uses the
> spare
> > resources on personal computers well, and probably other webapps too, but
> > not for this level of computing.
> >
>
> Keep in mind "the internet" isn't only a collection of homogeneous nodes
> separated by high latency low bandwidth connections it's very non-homogenous
> with many super low latency clusters of high performance computing regions.
> Adaptive systems can also adapt to their computational resource topologies.
> Software that can run on different substrates, or at least be ported,
> usually live longer lifetimes.
>
> But I won't try to sell on that I see you have a requirement for a GPU
> centric enabling parallelism.
>
> > Thank you John. The technology might change again. On has to continuously
> > sniff around for the best-fit solutions architecture.
> > The "problem" I would like to address is how to connect a 3D printer to
> the
> > wormhole in our universe, via an adaptive, learning communication service.
> >
>
> OK. That's either dreaming or very ambitious or both :)
I think, the exponential, technology advances happening now is set to continue.
Every new step increases the viability of such a dream becoming realized. I
suppose, it is very ambitious, but I would not be surprised if at least 30
other universities are working on a similar concept. As soon as the super gene
is uncovered - which I believe it would be - it would open the door for the
realization of this particular step in a a much, bigger dream.
I may not be a part of such pioneering work, but I could probably die happy
knowing that at least, I had one, original thought. Still on my quest though.
I sense I'm getting there, but how would one ever be able to verify such a
thing? Moot point. I'll even be okay learning that no original thought was
possible, which would support my theory of irrelevance. The journey would be
worth it. Worse-case scenario? It was helluva lotta fun!
>
> > Fractals? Yes, the knowledge methodologies employed, to date, are fractal
> > based, each component being a pure object, some recursive, others self
> > recursive. Each one represents as a system of systems on their own, and
> then
> > collectively at a quantum level. I have taken upon myself the job to
> integrate
> > these. It would seem to be my area of expertise.
> >
>
> I used to use pieces of Fractint code for various things back in the DOS
> days that was really the last time I've worked with fractals in depth. How
> does the system you are thinking of work? Does it inject fractal to learn
> from complexity? Is it like fractal compression?
Fractal compression could well be utilized at a holographic level, whether
logically, or as physical output. I don't know yet. Various applications seem
likely.
For now, the core, integration methodology is rooted in fractal theory, thus N
scalability. All other schemata and/or supportive methodologies and methods
would have to conform to this requirement. In essence then, one would not be
amiss to say that the whole system enjoyed the benefit of a symbiotic, fractal
architecture.
Randomness would be a key objective for research to resolve. If the system
cannot embrace true randomness, it would be quite useless. Thus, at the
logical-systems level, one has to consider any method, which would be
pattern-of-pattern friendly. Recently, I conducted an armchair experiment to
assess the reliability of a name-brand random generator, which claims to use
cosmic noise as random, input stream. Still, using a basic algorithm, I
discovered a few, consistent patterns in all the patterns that on-line system
generated, according to my specifications.
I was thinking for some, bright mathematician to flow this algorithm over a
Markov chain, to see if we could not detect the "pattern of one", as a symbol
of effective complexity, which I have the notion might exist. I'll keep that
one aside for the team and an appropriate, research environment.
The conceptual movie already plays in my mind. But logically it's a different
story altogether. At some stage, I'm quite certain of it, I'll fall off the
edge, due to my own ignorance and inherent fallibility. Further, my resources
and effort has been considerable, so one can only drive as far as one has fuel
for. It's a highly-conservative approach then, which is a good incentive for me
not to waste any resources on wild-goose chases. By then, my hope is we'd have
a dedicated team working on this, with unshakable funding in place, so my
weaknesses would find support with them and the organizational structure, and
so on.
To my reckoning, we have about 3 years left to conclude this work and have a
working prototype ready. I just think that the shit is going to hit the fan
after that, and the increased freedom to do research, almost at will, would
become severely impaired. So, dreamer, or not. Someone has to slog on with it.
Already, I noticed some benefit of that flowing into this community. It was my
pertinent choice to come share here, not coincidence. If we all did that, we'd
get there a lot sooner, or just in time.
The magic continues...
Rob
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