Steve “Without these, Colin approach seems to be doomed.”
A good point that's why we need to explicitly introduce the intermediate step (2) and we can have everything under one roof (integrate not divide) 1) Computer-based AGI (C-AGI) - digital computers are excellent tools, however compared to the real brain they provide only a “reduced model of computation” 2) Hybrid -based AGI (H-AGI) to integrate wet lab research, current AGI efforts, build a "full model of computation" that can be reshaped and provide more tips how to build a more synthetic AGI . This intermediary step can bring funding from all brain initiatives and have huge impact on health/medicine and therapy. 3) Non-computer-based AGI (NC-AGI) , the final step *Why a board of directors?* One may pursue two different models: *(A)Academic model: * Defending the value of information written in the textbooks is a responsibility of any academic scholar, so changing/ challenging anything becomes extremely difficult – see the initial acceptance of Deep Learning models ten years ago *(B)Business model: * works in many cases better than the academic model in shaping new things, see Tesla, Edison,Ford, Marconi and more recently Craig Venter. Fast gains are required to maintain the business model running. The board of directors should mainly take care of AGI business, marketing strategy for any attempt made in (1)(2) and (3). Step 2 can help the AGI business . Selecting the future board members is probably the most important task for IGI, Ben and many others can provide more details about how difficult is to maintain AGI business today. Chip implants, Mercury colonization.... and similar topics can all be thoroughly discussed after IGI is up and running We need to shape IGI based on a business model, so please feel, free to make any reliable proposals to build the infrastructure Dorian PS Neither Colin nor I are businessman and we do not make any attempt to be members of the board On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 3:50 AM, Logan Streondj <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 09:48:03AM +1000, colin hales wrote: > > Sorry about the previous empty. Phone issue. 10 thumbs. > > > > My particular flavour of the non-computer approach is irrelevant. I am > not pushing my own at all. > > > > Robot $ and kind irrelevant. I have the math you speak of. Wrong on both > counts. > > > > I do not care what kind of NC-AGI arises. All I know is that NC-AGI > important, neglected and needs a champion. > > okay so obviously you are the champion. > Why is it important? > > you guys have been talking about it for a week now, > and I still have no idea why you think it has value. > > like lets be honest here, anything that isn't a computer or > technology is biology. so what you are really talking about > (seems to me) is biological-AGI, or connecting a vat of > brain-cells to a computer. > this has been done, and can play simple video games. > but so can deep neuronets on computers. > > > > So please set anything you think you know about me or my approach aside. > You actually know almost nothing and what little that is is irrelevant to > what is happening in this thread. > > okay so do you have some kind of proprietary secret approach? > > I was thinking you can Dorian can sign an NDA and then no one > will ever know about anything you guys do. > > personally I think that there are a lot of potential ethical > issues with using biological mediums for computation, also they > aren't particularly scalable or portable. > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/17795807-366cfa2a > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
