It's funny in a way because you are implying that some of the most brilliant minds out there are blogging about "BULLSHIT" while your argument is just plain stupid. Even if you don't agree with anything Ben and many others write about you should understand that there does not have to be an interface between x and a superset of X. You should understand that you can create an object within a virtual environment without any methods capable of interacting with the host.

If I give you access to a VMWare instance or some AWS instance you can not derive the operating system of the host while the host has all the information about the virtual machine. Consciousness is the host. Your oscilloscope is an object within the virtual machine. You are using your virtual eyes to look at its readings. You can shift your consciousness away from identifying with your body and eyes and enjoy the full access to the very data that is rendered as your oscilloscope on the host system. Yet, your oscilloscope will never be able to tell you anything about the host system, all the date that's stored there, etc. ...

Don't meditate ... don't agree with anything I write ... but don't say "Can it be measured? If not, then it's BULLSHIT!!!!". I assume that you have worked with many different visualization technologies or encapsulation in software engineering ... so you should know better ...

On 21.10.2015 18:38, Alan Grimes wrote:
Can it be measured? If not, then it's BULLSHIT!!!!



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