It has profound consequences for all of us and WE can experience it
every single day. You just have to calm your mind beyond the threshold
where it no longer confuses "input" from the implementation realm (your
body) and where it becomes "open" to direct input from the host system
(where your consciousness "resides"). It just takes some training. We
are not used to interpreting "raw data" and tend to bias it at first.
The very first times you experience it you only get a few seconds of
data and your consciousness will shift back into the implementational world.
It's like you stop playing WoW for a second ... look out of the window
in the more profound reality and "real" rays of light scare you a bit so
you shift your consciousness back into the reality you are used to. It
takes some practice and it's weird/scary in the beginning.
Even if it was a personal slam. I don't care. I just try to get people
to explore consciousness in a scientific manner. After all, you can
conduct experiments in "consciousness space" without using oscilloscopes
... it's all about repeatability and verifiability - right?
Ben isn't trying to sell you anything when he writes about the
non-locality of mind. He experienced "consciousness space" first hand
and just points out his findings. Language and arguments can not make us
understand but we can gather first hand experience ourselves once we
overcome the "It's all bullshit and you are all stupid idiots and high
on some solvent." approach.
There have been very simple minded people realizing this and now there
are highly intelligent (in an academic sense) people who realize it as
well. Their explanations help us to question our contemporary
understanding of reality. A random rice farmer talking about all of this
in "weird" Hindu terms will not manage to penetrate our cultural
indoctrination and our perceived intellectual superiority. People like
Ben, who are using metaphors and analogies which resonate with us much
more, are having a bigger impact.
That's why I recommend Campbell's book. His model might not be correct
in every detail but it helps us to understand the bigger reality. The
more people there are exploring consciousness in a scientific way the
better our understanding will become.
On 22.10.2015 03:23, Aaron Hosford wrote:
It's a completely untestable claim that you're making. If we can't see
it, can't touch it, can't experience it, can't measure it, and it
doesn't affect us in any way, then my question to you is: Who Cares?
Right or wrong, it's of no consequence to us and it's beyond our
capabilities. In that sense, you really are disconnected from reality
/even if you are right/. This isn't a personal slam against you, so
please don't take it that way. I'm just explaining how I see it, and
how (I think) Mike sees it, too.
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AGI
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