I wonder if the high resolution rendering of Skyrim or something similar is really a necessity. You could actually build a very complex and dynamic virtual world without that high realism. If your goal is to have a simulation to train an AGI, might be that all it needs is it's own laws that can be deduct or infer and sufficient hierarchical emerging properties to makes things complex enough and interesting enough. The sensory input doesn't have to be visual. I'd even dare to say (To quote the previous link on Deepmind progress) that if your AI is general enough, once it understood it's virtual reality that is way off ours, the same program should be able to perform well in learning our reality. Just my 2 cents of course.
Simon > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [agi] HEY, NUMBSKULLS!!! DEFCON 2 SINGULARITY ALERT > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 23:56:20 -0400 > > J Rao wrote: > > Well I assume this is a joke, but if not (joke detection is pretty > > hard even for a human), here's DeepMind's source code for the Atari > > game player: > > https://sites.google.com/a/deepmind.com/dqn/ > > > > Feel free to fill in the rest 15%... > > =\ > > =( > > !!! > > =~( > > Thanks much for the link, > > I've been stuck for the last ten years because I haven't been able to > obtain a robotics lab or a VR sophisticated enough to do useful work... > Minecraft is probably the simplest example of a system complex enough to > support a general AI. > > I've been whining about this problem for ten years and haven't been able > to make any headway on my finances (my check card was declined when I > tried to buy $30 of groceries this morning) and I haven't been able to > make any headway on the > > My current state of mind is to try to bootstrap me a company to develop > the necessary stuff... > > Skyrim is awesome in terms of graphics and scale, but isn't really a > world simulator as most things are either immutable or static in some > sense. The avatar system is severely limited and it has a number of > flaws that limit it's usefulness... If you try to use a lumber mill, you > will notice four logs on the top of the pile when you start the mill... > It will animate the process of milling planks gorgeously but then you > notice that there are still four logs on the top of the pile... the log > that you had sent through the mill had been replaced by the game's > engine so the state of the world didn't really change. > > So yeah, Skyrim that was as malleable as Minecraft would be teh awesomez > for AGI development. > > > Skyrim cost $80M to develop, and was produced by a well-established > company with plenty of experience in the genre. > > > I registered the site numentics.com but am trying to figure out how to > program it... I want the site in 3D using the X3dom javascript-based VR > engine or similar... To make sure It gets done, I might be able to get a > business loan and get it done... Will probably cost about half a million > and then another half-million to keep the lights on while I scramble > around for more capitol, or to bootstrap an income stream off of the 3D > website... The goal is to either directly be my AGI project or to have > enough overlap with what I need to be my AGI project... > > =\ > > My point is that the reason why I haven't done this already isn't > because I didn't want to, or didn't know how, but that I haven't been > able to attract/obtain the resources/collaborators I needed to make this > shit work. This time around I think I have an idea that I might just be > able to make work and I"m sufficiently desperate to put myself at > massive financial risk.... > > > -- > IQ is a measure of how stupid you feel. > > Powers are not rights. > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/27714077-224a20ec > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
