On 10/31/15, Aaron Hosford <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I mean EVERYTHING. > > > Including the assignments of their "fuzzy-ish TRUE/Indeterminate/False > property" to everything? Is indeterminacy handled at the meta level, as > well? >
Well, I only made up to about 70 pages. I would assume so. The seem to enforce the general TRUE/Indeterminate/False scheme universally. I really should continue reading it. By the way, that is the way Hegel had his judgment -- with those 3 values. The authors seem to claim that old dialectics did not venture into the fuzzy middle of true/false, but in fact Hegel's work has many such references. Hegel had the category of "absolute indifference" in which something was not either/or but a fuzzy combination. > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Mike Archbold <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 10/27/15, John Rose <[email protected]> wrote: >> > This seems to allow pushing the indeterminacy though your mathematical >> > structure while keeping the structure intact enough in relation to the >> > “wetness” of indeterminacy. I don’t know though if this “wetness” is >> > accurate enough in the propagation or just symbolically superficial... >> > increasing levels of indeterminacy should produce structural >> > degradation >> but >> > Neutrosophy allows you to carry it along somehow. But there is much >> overlap >> > with the other mathematical technologies. I like this one though for >> > some >> > reason… maybe because it has cult appeal :) >> > >> > >> > >> > John >> >> What do you mean "cult appeal"? (a joke?) >> >> I read about 70 pages.... It looks like they apply their fuzzy-ish >> TRUE/Indeterminate/False property to literally everything in their >> system. I mean EVERYTHING. Something has a certain degree of >> stability, something has degrees of membership, a degree of quality, >> whatever. It's always or nearly always the same form. I wonder how >> well this holds up in scale....The overall design is one of >> chaos/dynamics. This reminds me a bit of Ben's work on >> probability/logic. >> >> Mike A >> >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Aaron Hosford [mailto:[email protected]] >> > Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 5:14 PM >> > To: AGI <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [agi] Everything is not (t, i, f) = (1, 0, 0) >> > >> > >> > >> > Interesting, but it's a lot to wade into without knowing whether it's >> worth >> > my (unfortunately very limited) time. How is this different from other >> > multi-valued logics? What does it do that probability theory doesn't >> cover? >> > >> > On Oct 24, 2015 3:40 AM, "John Rose" <[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: >> > >> > For those into logic based AI/AGI, man, Smarandache is really going >> > full >> > bore on propagating neutrosophy throughout mathematics. For example - >> going >> > into how neutrosophic dynamic system behavior verses non-neutrosophic >> > behavior changes chaotically, to modifying propositional logic for >> > neutrosophy, to defining netrosophic octonionics. to almost - not quite >> > getting to a neutrosophic entropy in this book: >> > http://www.gallup.unm.edu/~smarandache/SymbolicNeutrosophicTheory.pdf >> > >> > but with some Googling you can find other people that have begun to >> > bang >> > out >> > a definition of neutrosophic entropy. IMO very powerful stuff. So I'm >> going >> > to try to understand how a neutrosophic entropy compares to traditional >> > fuzzy entropies and perhaps how that would affect say the Wissner-Gross >> > Causal Entropic Force. 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