AGI will also be constraint by scarcity of resource, at least in the
beginning. That resource is computation power, just because you get the
source code doesn't mean you can run it, or run it fastenough to matter.
If the first AGI can only be run in real time on 10,000 GPU clusters,
then open source its code would just give power to the rich and stupid,
a very dangerous combination.
On 12/20/2015 4:10 PM, Ben Goertzel wrote:
There are no logical inconsistencies in advocating open-source AI.
Nukes are a bad analogy. They are controlled largely via scarcity of
needed raw materials. But if AGI can be implemented on standard
digital computers, this sort of control does not exist....
Musk's conclusion, which I agree with, is that the odds of keeping AGI
safe via
a) doing a mediocre job of safe AGI design and trying (and probably
failing) to keep one's AGI system secret
are lower than the odds of keeping AGI safe via
b) having a really good design for safe AGI, even if publicly known
...
and he is betting that b) will be best achieved via having the world
at large pursue AGI, rather than having AGI pursued secretly by gov't
labs or big for-profit companies only...
Part of the reasoning behind a) is that keeping software designs
secret in the modern era is pretty damn unlikely....
The argument is one of balancing probabilities that we cannot know
very well at the moment, but I don't think it's inconsistent or
illogical...
-- Ben
On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:19 PM, J Rao <jr...@live.com
<mailto:jr...@live.com>> wrote:
To play devil's advocate, if AGI is really dangerous like Elon
Musk believes, wouldn't distributed access to AGI like handing out
nukes to everybody? I think there's some logical inconsistencies
here, unless he also supports NRA.
On 12/20/2015 9:20 AM, Logan Streondj wrote:
I agree with Elon about distributed access to AGI and I have
been meditating over 15 years.
AI superpowers, well we already have spellcheckers which make
us superhuman spellers. I think it is the little increases in
accuracy, efficiency and access to knowledge people and money
that makes info tech enabled humans super by contrast to
ordinary humans.
I also agree that it is a limited view to constrain to human
powers, when we can also consider humanity as extended by and
inclusive of our technological children.
The habitable zone can encompass all planets, if we accept AGI
as part of humanity's self.
justcamel wrote:
Elon Musk is a highly dysfunctional clown. He knows
nothing about the world view and perception of a highly
developed and wise individual. He extrapolates from his
limited consciousness and expects AI to behave in ways his
narrow world view deems logical.
Ask Elon Musk again after he meditated for a decade.
Why do we care about the opinions of random people? Your
bank account and your IQ are irrelevant when it comes to
understanding reality.
On 19.12.2015 18:56, John Smith wrote:
“I think the best defense against the misuse of AI is
to empower as many people as possible to have AI. If
everyone has AI powers, then there’s not any one
person or a small set of individuals who can have AI
superpower." - Elon Musk
I wonder what sorts of AI powers, or superpowers you
guys think he is talking about?
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