Has anyone understood the math in this IIT? Is it just some measure of 'feedback' in a connected system and Koch is supposing that this is a measure of consciousness because... why? What is the explanation of consciousness as 'just' a feedback? If not, can someone explain what they are saying?
Regards, Colin. -----Original Message----- From: Mike Archbold [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 31 March 2016 22:50 To: AGI <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [agi] Panpsychism and Integrated Information Theory "So then IMO symbolistic expression space regulates communication complexity. Everything is separated ethereally by the autonomous computational complexity in emergence pressures of symbolistic communication expression efficiency within systems. Consciousness creation pressures then would be similar, would be throttled similarly. Consciousness intensity patterns could be harmonic plateaus following symbolistic communication gradient thresholds bound within this atomically structured world." I have no idea what this means but it is a nice break from the pythagoreanist, math-first approach On 3/31/16, John Rose <[email protected]> wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Logan Streondj [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> In case you haven't heard, 'Leading neuroscientists and Buddhists >> agree: “Consciousness is everywhere"' >> http://www.lionsroar.com/christof-koch-unites-buddhist-neuroscience-u >> niv >> ersal-nature-mind/ >> >> Also in terms of Integrated Information Theory, based on it, has >> anyone here thought about designing optimization functions in order >> to maximize the amount of consciousness? >> >> - -- >> Logan Streondj, > > As with consciousness in IIT one could also say that "intelligence is > everywhere" or Energy is everywhere or Being is everywhere or Destiny > is everywhere or Everything is everywhere or... > Nothing is everywhere or > Nothing is nowhere (or) > Everything is (everywhere or nowhere) > Everything is () > Every > thing > is > ( > ) > > Words are the chains which bound my thoughts. > Thoughts are the chains which bound my words. > Thought words are word thoughts are thoughtly words being wordly thoughts. > > (A tribute to my friend Bob Grumman who passed before I got to know > him better. Still trying to retrieve his blog data... please people > especially you older folks who have written much during your lifetime > think of what happens to the material posthumously.) > > ... > > So then IMO symbolistic expression space regulates communication complexity. > Everything is separated ethereally by the autonomous computational > complexity in emergence pressures of symbolistic communication > expression efficiency within systems. Consciousness creation pressures > then would be similar, would be throttled similarly. Consciousness > intensity patterns could be harmonic plateaus following symbolistic > communication gradient thresholds bound within this atomically structured > world. > > What does this mean? In order to achieve higher levels of > consciousness you need to disengaged your thoughts, or an AGI's > thoughts from the boundaries of a language's symbolistic expression > space and find new ones to transmit in. Or find other ways to alter > transmission limits... thereby opening up the flood gates. The details > of which are left up to the user :) > > John > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: > https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/11943661-d9279dae > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/14513811-9a411e54 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
