One of my big motivations to get into AGI is that I have long NOT considered a human being some kind of gold standard of intelligence. Racism is just one piece of the problem. The solution, though, still a long way off...
On 2/22/17, Dr Miles Dyson <[email protected]> wrote: > It seems as though the answer Microsoft came up with for preventing its > chat bot "Zo" from ending up racist like "Tay", is through the development > of a content moderator ( > https://www.microsoft.com/cognitive-services/en-us/content-moderator ). > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Mark Nuzz <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Jan Matusiewicz < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> AGI should show us the truth. It shouldn't be deliberately biased. And >>> this is the best weapon against racism. Racism is irrational - it comes >>> from, built in human nature, bias against aliens. Humans have a tendency >>> to >>> generalize negative features of units to whole groups in a very >>> different >>> way for our group and the alien group. We have examples of that in the >>> history and now. The idea that some nations should be eradicated or >>> enslaved because they so much differ from our nation is riddiculous. But >>> is >>> was very popular. Assuming that all people from particular countries >>> should >>> be banned from entering your country is also irrational but appealing >>> for >>> many. >>> >> Slavery and genocide is of course a bad thing! We can objectively define >> those things. But can you objectively define racism? Where do you draw >> the >> line? Is acknowledging that there are genetic differences between races, >> which goes beyond cosmetics, itself a form of racism? Is drawing >> correlations between race and anything else a form of racism? What if an >> AGI were to disagree with you on that (whatever your opinion is)? What if >> an AGI were to disagree with another AGI on that? It's a pretty bold >> claim >> to say that this is a clear cut case of objectivity. If that were so, >> there >> wouldn't be any room for debate, but there clearly is if you're one of >> the >> few who hasn't turned your social network into an echo chamber by now. >> >> Taking this one step further, with your own example, what if AGI were to >> determine that slavery of 5% of the population was the only viable way >> for >> human prosperity? The "threat" is not that we won't be able to shut it >> off, >> but that we won't want to. I'm not sure that AGI can even save humanity >> from itself anymore. >> >> >> >>> An AGI which tries to be as objective as possible would be free from >>> this >>> dangerous tendency. This would make political correctness unnecessary >>> for >>> it. However it is possible that people would interpret its finding in a >>> racist way. For example it may find out that ethnic group A is better at >>> IQ >>> tests then group B, but this is be due to lower educational level of B. >>> Some people would repeat only the first part of its finding. >>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 21:51 Dr Miles Dyson, >>> <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> If the world is such that the data that exists supports empirical and >>>> scientific racism (or insert your politically incorrect world view >>>> here), >>>> how could we create a AGI that could avoid (or minimize the likelihood >>>> of >>>> it) taking such an undesirable view? >>>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/28565694-f30243b8> | >>>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>>> >>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/2552162-5fb4be76> | >>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>> >> >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/26973278-698fd9ee> | >> Modify >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> >> Your Subscription <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/11943661-d9279dae > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
