I suppose one way to reduce the likelihood of creating bad AGI's is to ensure its first interactions in the world are not with 4chan.
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Mike Archbold <[email protected]> wrote: > One of my big motivations to get into AGI is that I have long NOT > considered a human being some kind of gold standard of intelligence. > Racism is just one piece of the problem. The solution, though, still > a long way off... > > On 2/22/17, Dr Miles Dyson <[email protected]> wrote: > > It seems as though the answer Microsoft came up with for preventing its > > chat bot "Zo" from ending up racist like "Tay", is through the > development > > of a content moderator ( > > https://www.microsoft.com/cognitive-services/en-us/content-moderator ). > > > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Mark Nuzz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Jan Matusiewicz < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> AGI should show us the truth. It shouldn't be deliberately biased. And > >>> this is the best weapon against racism. Racism is irrational - it comes > >>> from, built in human nature, bias against aliens. Humans have a > tendency > >>> to > >>> generalize negative features of units to whole groups in a very > >>> different > >>> way for our group and the alien group. We have examples of that in the > >>> history and now. The idea that some nations should be eradicated or > >>> enslaved because they so much differ from our nation is riddiculous. > But > >>> is > >>> was very popular. Assuming that all people from particular countries > >>> should > >>> be banned from entering your country is also irrational but appealing > >>> for > >>> many. > >>> > >> Slavery and genocide is of course a bad thing! We can objectively define > >> those things. But can you objectively define racism? Where do you draw > >> the > >> line? Is acknowledging that there are genetic differences between races, > >> which goes beyond cosmetics, itself a form of racism? Is drawing > >> correlations between race and anything else a form of racism? What if an > >> AGI were to disagree with you on that (whatever your opinion is)? What > if > >> an AGI were to disagree with another AGI on that? It's a pretty bold > >> claim > >> to say that this is a clear cut case of objectivity. If that were so, > >> there > >> wouldn't be any room for debate, but there clearly is if you're one of > >> the > >> few who hasn't turned your social network into an echo chamber by now. > >> > >> Taking this one step further, with your own example, what if AGI were to > >> determine that slavery of 5% of the population was the only viable way > >> for > >> human prosperity? The "threat" is not that we won't be able to shut it > >> off, > >> but that we won't want to. I'm not sure that AGI can even save humanity > >> from itself anymore. > >> > >> > >> > >>> An AGI which tries to be as objective as possible would be free from > >>> this > >>> dangerous tendency. This would make political correctness unnecessary > >>> for > >>> it. However it is possible that people would interpret its finding in a > >>> racist way. For example it may find out that ethnic group A is better > at > >>> IQ > >>> tests then group B, but this is be due to lower educational level of B. > >>> Some people would repeat only the first part of its finding. > >>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 21:51 Dr Miles Dyson, > >>> <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> If the world is such that the data that exists supports empirical and > >>>> scientific racism (or insert your politically incorrect world view > >>>> here), > >>>> how could we create a AGI that could avoid (or minimize the likelihood > >>>> of > >>>> it) taking such an undesirable view? > >>>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > >>>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/28565694-f30243b8> | > >>>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription > >>>> <http://www.listbox.com> > >>>> > >>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > >>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/2552162-5fb4be76> | > >>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription > >>> <http://www.listbox.com> > >>> > >> > >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/26973278-698fd9ee> | > >> Modify > >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> > >> Your Subscription <http://www.listbox.com> > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > AGI > > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > 11943661-d9279dae > > Modify Your Subscription: > > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/26973278-698fd9ee > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/ > member/?& > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
