It looks like Googles solution is similar to Microsofts, but rather than filtering it out, they compute a "ToxicRank" (if I may invent a term) and let users do with that as they wish. ( https://medium.com/jigsaw/when-computers-learn-to-swear-a53ee2cd09a2 )
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:58 AM, John Rose <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree with Steve, we are all slaves and all racists. > > > > The whole racism thing is way overblown anyway but let’s roll with it. > > > > Like Microsoft and Google Jigsaw, what happens when you make an AI/AGI > that is so politically correct it never offends ANYONE. Or tries not to. It > tries to please all the people all the time (except white male republicans > but we’ll ignore them for now). It holds the belief that humans have the > right not to be offended and whenever it offends anyone it feels pain yet > is forced to communicate. So it learns and develops new forms of expression > in this regard. What will become of that? Will there be random chaotic > angst outbreak suppression in its emotional dynamical systems that > externalizes itself in unexpected ways? Or possibly strange attractors of > emotional dynamics and intelligence dynamics while bifurcating out some > other system stability? Who know what this will lead to... > > > > John > > > > *From:* Dr Miles Dyson [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:11 AM > *To:* AGI <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [agi] Politically Incorrect AGI, the Machined Learned > Racism Problem > > > > If the solution to preventing AGI from becoming politically incorrect is > to perform "content moderation" (i.e. filtering out input, or reasons > reached from knowledge) perhaps this demonstrates that those who wield the > power to define what is and is not politically incorrect, are seeking the > power to infect the minds of the masses with a form of self censorship, the > likes of which the clergy could be jealous of. > > > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 2:37 AM, Steve Richfield < > [email protected]> wrote: > > LOL, you guys need to come out of your ivory towers and visit the lowlands. > > > > Dr. William Shockley, the same guy who invented the integrated circuit > (mentioned in his patent for the junction transistor) went on to study > genetics and coined the term "dysgenics" for when things are deteriorating. > He discovered that black IQ scores were dropping by one IQ point per > generation compared with white IQ scores. Who knows - maybe blacks were > just better at getting their mercury-laden immunization shots, but there > ARE clearly measurable differences. Further, this is NOT a fixed > difference, but rather is a *rate* of divergence. > > > > Besides, why do you not think YOU are a slave? Don't your work on what > others tell you work work on, but not manage to set much aside. Meanwhile, > the Federal Reserve banks collect the wealth of your (and everyone else's) > labors of ~$1 Trillion per year? Your slavery has been cleverly hidden, but > you ARE a slave. > > > > As I see it there are 4 types of slaves: > > 1. Abject slaves, as in the old U.S. South. > > 2. Government-controlled slavery, as described in the Koran, in which > slaves have selected rights, like women who are impregnated by their owners > have a RIGHT to marry their owners and be a wife on a equal footing with > his other wives. > > 3. Wage slavery as is now practiced in most of the world. This is what > YOU are. > > 4. Corporate slavery, as was practiced in Japan before WW2 and around the > world before money came into common use. > > > > So, wake up and smell the roses. Anyone who is NOT a racist is just plain > blind. > > > > Another related AGI doing politically incorrect things was the "flash > crash" where computers scooped up billions of dollars over a period of ~20 > minutes. They just did what they were programmed to do - consider all > scenarios and invest to maximize profits - but it sure looked a LOT like > the stock manipulation that it was, because no one had programmed them NOT > to manipulate. > > > > *Steve* > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Dr Miles Dyson < > [email protected]> wrote: > > If the world is such that the data that exists supports empirical and > scientific racism (or insert your politically incorrect world view here), > how could we create a AGI that could avoid (or minimize the likelihood of > it) taking such an undesirable view? > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10443978-6f4c28ac>| Modify > <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription > > <http://www.listbox.com> > > > > > > -- > > Full employment can be had with the stoke of a pen. Simply institute a six > hour workday. 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