0 ridiculous about it. It's totally to the point.
A problem about mathematical series, which you offer, is not an adaptive/AGI problem. I assume that your machine knows about series. All AI machines will continually be presented with "unseen" problems. A simple calculator will encounter sums that it has never seen before. But they are "expected." and in a very general way "predictable." The calculator or AI machine has ways of dealing with them. It has a set of rules that allow it to deal with a vast number of previously unseen situations/ problem variations. Similarly an AI that deals with series will be able to deal with all kinds of hitherto unseen series. A truly adaptive/AGI problem is where your existing ways don't work, your rules simply don't apply, and the problem is not only unseen but unexpected *Problem: fit these pieces into that case - but the pieces just don't fit, they occupy a larger area than the case -w hat do you do now? *Problem: shore up a leaking dam - so, if you're a beaver, you keep doing what you should - shoring with stones and branches, - but the dam still keeps leaking - what do you do now? *Problem: "remove six matches to form ten" - you have three sets of five matches each, and you must take away six matches - but that will leave 9 matches not ten.. what do you do now? A true AGI - like the human or animal brain - has the capacity to cope with such divergent, unexpected problems, which require it to produce altogether new, as yet unestablished ways of reaching goals from within its existing database/world model. That is the essence of AGI, and how the human brain achieves it is what has to be explained. You seem to be interested only in basic AI. . ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Waser To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [agi] rule-based NL system >> No it's not "prediction" - nothing can predict the unexpected. Unexpected is *totally* different from previously unseen. If you've seen that 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, & 11 are large & black and that 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 & 12 are small & red but you've never seen 13, you still have expectations about it and can make (what is likely to be very good) predictions about it. >> What distinguishes divergent vs convergent intelligence (AGI vs AI) is the ability to find new ways of overcoming new [previously unseen/unexpected] obstacles to your goals - when your current database/ world model has nothing immediately to offer. Then what *are* you using if your current database/world model has "nothing" to offer. It *has* to be offering something -- like suggested plans to try or ways to get more information. Please take the time to try to understand what I'm saying rather than putting up ridiculous strawmen. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Tintner To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [agi] rule-based NL system MW: the fact that prediction of previously unseen things is critical to intelligence. No it's not "prediction" - nothing can predict the unexpected. What distinguishes divergent vs convergent intelligence (AGI vs AI) is the ability to find new ways of overcoming new [previously unseen/unexpected] obstacles to your goals - when your current database/ world model has nothing immediately to offer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 01/05/2007 14:57 ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=231415&user_secret=fabd7936
