It's impossible for a human reading a book written in an exotic foreign
language, so you are going too far. It's like cracking a Rijndael
encrypted file with a 1000000000000000-bit key size, but worse. Infinite
possible interpretations.
John G. Rose wrote:
This is how I "envision" it when a "text only" AGI is fed its world view as
text only. The more text it processes the more a spatial physical system
would emerge internally assuming it is fed text that describes physical
things. Certain relational laws are common across text that describe and
reflect the physical world as we know it. There might be limits to what the
AGI could construct from this information alone but basic Newtonian physics
systems could be constructed. If you fed it more advanced physics textbooks
it should be able to construct Newtonian+ systems - branch out from the
basics. It's "handles" to the physical world would be text based or
internally constructed representational entities, which BTW would be text
based i.e. numerical representations in base 256 or base n, binary in
physical memory. Theoretically it could construct bitmap visual scenes, or
estimate what they would look like if it was told to "show" what visual
imagery would look like to someone with eyes. It could figure out what color
is, shading, textures, and ultimately 3D space with motion - depending on
the AGI algorithms programmed into it that is... But if it was not fed
enough text containing physical interrelationships its physics and projected
bitmaps would be distorted. There would have to be enough information in the
text or it would have to be smart enough to derive from minimal information
for it to be accurate.
Now naturally it might be better to ground it from the get-go with spatial
physics but for development and testing purposes having it figure that out
would be challenging to build.
John
From: Vladimir Nesov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [agi] Do the inference rules.. P.S.
...and also why can't 3D world model be just described abstractly, by
presenting the intelligent agent with bunch of objects with attached
properties and relations between them that preserve certain
invariants? Spacial part of world model doesn't seem to be more
complex than general problem of knowledge arrangement, when you have
to keep track of all kinds of properties that should (and shouldn't)
be derived for given scene.
On 10/12/07, Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
spatial perception cannot exist without vision.
How does someone who is blind from birth have spatial perception then?
Vision is one particular sense that can lead to a 3-dimensional model
of the
world (spatial perception) but there are others (touch & echo-location
hearing to name two).
Why can't echo-location lead to spatial perception without vision?
Why
can't touch?
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