John,
[A]bstract algebra based engine thats basically an algebraic structure pump sounds really exotic. Im visualizing a robo-version of my ninth grade algebra teacher on speed. If its not giving away the crown jewels, what in the hell is it and how does it fit into to AGI? And what are the always rearing CAs, you know, the ones with the tiny little heads? Edward W. Porter Porter & Associates 24 String Bridge S12 Exeter, NH 03833 (617) 494-1722 Fax (617) 494-1822 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: John G. Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 4:44 PM To: agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: RE: [agi] An AGI Test/Prize Well Im neck deep in 55,000 semi-colons of code in this AI app Im building and need to get this bastich out the do and its probably going to grow to 80,000 before version 1.0. But at some point it needs to grow a brain. Yes I have my AGI design in mind since late 90s and had been watching what would happen with Intelligenesis. I particularly think along the lines of an abstract algebra based engine basically an algebraic structure pump. Everything is sets and operators with probability glue, a lot of SOM and AI sensory. But recent ideas in category theory are molding it and CAs are always rearing their tiny little heads . But spending time digesting Novamente theory and then general AGI structure thats valuable. Things like - graph storage indexing methodology - really need to spend some time on that especially learning from the people with experience. John From: Benjamin Goertzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/20/07, Edward W. Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John, So rather than a definition of intelligence you want a recipe for how to make a one? Goertzel's descriptions of Novamente in his two recent books are the closest, publicly-available approximation of that of which I currently know. Actually my book on how to build an AGI are not publicly available at this point ... but I'm strongly leaning toward making them so ... it's mostly just a matter of finding time to proofread them, remove obsolete ideas, etc. and generally turn them from draft manuscripts into finalized manuscripts. I have already let a bunch of people read the drafts... Of course, a problem with putting material like this in dead-tree form is that the ideas are evolving. We learn new stuff as we proceed through implementing the stuff in the books.... But the basic framework (knowledge rep, algorithms, cognitive architecture, teaching methodology) has not changed as we've proceed through the work so far, just some of the "details" (wherein the devil famously lies ;-) _____ This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/? <http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; > & ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=55814342-eb1811
