A perhaps nicer example is

Get me the ball

for which RelEx outputs

definite(ball)
singular(ball)
imperative(get)
singular(me)
definite(me)
_obj(get, me)
_obj2(get, ball)

and RelExToFrame outputs

Bringing:Theme(get,me)
Bringing:Beneficiary(get,me)
Bringing:Theme(get,ball)
Bringing:Agent(get,you)

Note that the RelEx output is already abstracted
and "semantified" compared to what comes out of
a grammar parser.

-- Ben                          

On Jan 9, 2008 5:59 PM, Benjamin Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Can you give about ten examples of rules?  (That would answer a lot of my
> > questions above)
>
> That would just lead to really long list of questions that I don't have time 
> to
> answer right now....
>
> In a month or two, we'll write a paper on the rule-encoding approach we're
> using, and I'll post it to the list, which will make this approach clearer.
>
> > Where did you get the rules?  Did you hand-code them or get them from
> > somewhere?
>
> As you know we have a system called RelEx that transforms the output of
> the link parser into higher-level semantic relationships.
>
> We then have a system of rules that map RelEx output into a set of
> frame-element relationships constructed mostly based on FrameNet.
>
> For the sentence
>
> Ben kills chickens
>
> RelEx outputs
>
> _obj(kill, chicken)
> present(kill)
> plural(chicken)
> uncountable(Ben)
> _subj(kill, Ben)
>
> and the RelExToFrame rules output
>
> Killing:Killer(kill,Ben)
> Killing:Victim(kill,chicken)
> Temporal_colocation:Event(present,kill)
>
> But I really don't have time to explain all the syntax and notation in
> detail... if it's not transparent...
>
> And I want to stress that I consider this kind of system pretty
> useless on its own, it's only potentially valuable if coupled with
> other components like we have in Novamente, such as an uncertain
> inference engine and an embodied learning system...
>
> Such rules IMO are mainly valuable to give a starting-point to a
> learning system, not as the sole or primary cognitive material of an
> AI system.  And using them as a starting-point requires very careful
> design...
>
> The 5000 rules figure is roughly rooted in the 825 frames in FrameNet;
> each frame corresponds to a number of rules, most of which are related
> to specific verb/preposition combinations.
>
> Another way to look at it is that each rule corresponds roughly to a
> Lojban word/argument combination... pretty much, FrameNet and the
> Lojban dictionary are doing the same thing, which is to precisely
> specify commonsense subcategorization frames.
>
> -- Ben
>

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