Mike,

Don't you know about change blindness and the like? You don't actually
see all these details, it's delusional. You only get the gist of the
scene, according to current context that forms the focus of your
attention. Amount of information you extract from watching a movie is
not dramatically bigger than what you extract from reading a book.

Bob was talking about the very real phenomenon - if we disable area in
your brain that captures movement, you will observe a slide show and
it might help you to get away from this movies-in-the-head fix that
you've got.

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Eh? Move your hand across the desk. You see that as a series of snapshots?
>  Move a noisy object across. You don't see a continuous picture with a
>  continuous soundtrack?
>
>  Let me give you an example of how impressive I think the brain's powers here
>  are. I've been thinking about metaphor and the superimposition/
>  transformation of two images involved. "The clouds cried" - that sort of
>  thing. Then another one came up: "bicycle kick." Now technically, I think
>  that's awesome - because to arrive at it, the brain has to superimpose two
>  *movie* clips.
>
>  Look at the football kick:
>
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NCWQr47bK0
>
>  and then look at the action of cycling. (In fact that superimposition of
>  clouds and eyes crying is also of movie clips - and so are a vast amount of
>  metaphors - but I hadn't really noticed it).
>
>  Try and tell me how current visual systems might make that connection.
>
>  And I would assert - and am increasingly confident - that the grammar of
>  language - how we put words together in whatever form - is based on cutting
>  together internal *movies* in our head - not still images,but movies.
>
>  They don't teach moviemaking in AI courses do they?
>
>
>
>  "Bob Mottram": Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >>  consciousness is a continuously moving picture with the other senses
>  >> continuous too
>  >
>  > There doesn't seem to be much evidence for this.  People with damage
>  > to MT, or certain types of visual migrane, see the world as a slow
>  > jerky series of snapshots (like looking at a webcam with a low frame
>  > rate).  The temporal resolution of consciousness may actually be quite
>  > slow - on the 0.5 second time frame as originally described by Grey
>  > Walter.
>
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